Someone explain the LFG tool hate?

The absence of a lfg tool only beneifts the people that want to keep on feeling special that they can acquire certain gear, while everyone else waits for 1hr+ for a group for a normal lvl50 run. The LFG tool will happen regardless of these people's fake negativity towards it.
Also anyone that whines that it brings in baddies/ninjas to get good gear, who cares, just carry or kick that baddie and Master Loot the drops.

"Magical teleportation" is irrelevant in this game. All flashpoints are off fleet - a few minutes from the port-in point. It's not the evil you make it out to be. It's a time saver. Tell me, what exactly is so horrid with eliminating valueless, rote, boring activities like traveling? Do you use fleet pass? Do you use quick travel? Do you use the shuttles BW put out on the planets to quick travel to Fleet?

No, the tool really isn't very useful. I've been trying to use it off and on since game test and my feedback has always been the same: why did the devs even bother with it? It's horrid, unhelpful, and less useful than spamming LFG into general.

And yes there still will be just as much wait time. As I mentioned earlier, everyone who wants to do flashpoints is already sitting on fleet spamming. Using the piss-poor current LFG tool won't increase the number of people wanting to do flashpoints. The wait time will not change.

Has never happened in WoW, the most popular MMO in history. You seem to be seeing ghosts where there are none my friend.

I have 7 lvl 85's and am leveling a shammy right now, I do both structured guild raids and lfg runs. I have never considered turning my back on regular guild runs just because there is a LFG tool.

It most certainly did happen in WoW as seen by the disappearance of people LFG in trade or the LFG channel for large periods. This usually returned on and shortly after patch day when people did not want to PuG because they did not want to deal with LFG dramas. I don't believe I ever mentioned Guilds so what's your point? I'm talking about PuGs.


You are the one generalizing that a LFG tool will destroy everything, not me. You are the guy who claimed WoW was a raid only game, but now you claim more then 50% don;t raid, so which one is it?I see no reason why both statements can't apply

I wonder where you get your number that over half of WoW accounts never do any raids though, you have some kind of hard fact list showing this (request link)? In my experience most people do some form of raids, this is easily discovered by looking at the gear people wear at max level. Dungeons and raids have gear rating numbers and if they are wearing the soulbound gear, obviously they did raid, lol.

As I said in my previous post 'I believe' this is correct. If I recall correctly it was a Ghostcrawler quote saying that 38% of accounts were raiding following LFR, which was something they were proud of.


You still seem to be wanting a mostly solo game, not a MMO. The point of a MMO is to eventually be doing things large groups do, not 1 person, otherwise you may as well erase the "MM".

I agree this game has great potential plus I love the storylines.

Guess what, the raiding is part of the storyline in case you missed that part, kind of sad that part of the story is out of reach for over 80% of the paying population.
It may be out of reach currently, but if people wait for transfers and own server LFG then that may well solve the issue. Sure at some stage in the distant future a x-server LFG may be required but I don't believe that this is yet the time.




That part was not opinion, it was game mechanic fact. The better gear has higher stats for example, gear you can only get through raids. All the other aspects of the game are meant to be supportive elements for that endgame content. As I said above, the story continues "past" the single player stuff.
You stated that the ultimate end game is raiding, for you maybe, not all. Oh yes and I am being 'silly' for not wanting to raid. Yeah right.
Oh yes teamwork, what part of 'Playing with my friends did you not read. I decided that there was not enough content outside of those times to justify my subscription, that's all
What are you wanting to say? That we should all read a book and stop reading before we read the last chapter? The desire to read that last chapter is bad?
Stupid analogies are still stupid

You are obviously just trolling with that comment.

Go look on wowprogress and see the fact that there are more guilds now than ever, more people experiencing endgame content now than ever, more success per account than ever, and yes, Blizz is making a lot of money with increasing memberships. All of this shows that their LFG tools are a resounding success and has made their community better and allowed more players to learn to be better players.

You seem fixated on guilds. If guilds are growing a possible reason could be that that people are so sick of LFG PUGing that they are moving to queue in guild only groups
Would that not include your opinions?


At least I offer hard facts you can check yourself (go look at wowprogress to see all the many successful guilds out there) and all you have is this feeling you want to make everyone else stop wanting to raid.

You believe they are becoming the standard because you WANT them to be standard. And you also try and claim that you are still enjoying the game even without a LFG tool even though your signature states specifically that you will stop playing the game if they do not implement it. This is saying that you need it in your MMO for that MMO to be satisfactory to your standards. If you want an MMO that has a x-server LFG tool, go to one that already has it. Don't try and bring it to other MMOs that don't need it.

Wow! A constructive post!

Push come to shove, I wouldnt be so against xserver if they also included these PLUS

6) Pools from your server first for 10-15 min before looking elsewhere.

7) A rating system and the ability to choose the min rating to be paired up with. One where you cannot vote for the same person more than once per week. Or month, which ever works best. (Accountability) Sure some may be aholes and just vote down everyone, some wont vote ... but much like any internet vendor rating out there after you get a good number of votes on your account, its a pretty good rating for others to judge you by. Short; if this system is accurate and good enough for some people out there to depend their entire income on (career ebayers), its good enough for a game.

Once I finish all class stories, if there is no xserver lfd tool, then yes, my current plan is to unsub because without that, I will NOT waste time looking for raid groups in vain...

Lol, ninjas and baddies are not the concern. Points proven in WoW and Rift is that random baddies cannot seem to complete the content laid out before them so they ask for nerfs. Notice how there is no more CC in WoW? Notice how dungeons that use to take up to two hours to complete are facerolled in 10 mins?. That is the concern

It's only useless to the useless players who want instant gratification.

Next it will be free lvl 50's because they deserve it for having another lvl 50.

As much as I want to call you out for trolling on that one, I do have to concede that there were some in WoW that asked for that very thing. And no, I wasn't one of them and yes, I'm one of the ones that opposed it and would do so here too. With those notable exceptions though, no one here is asking for a cakewalk. They just want to play the game they're paying for (and no, spamming fleet for hours of your playtime isn't playing the game)