Someone explain the LFG tool hate?

Why is it you are always wrong? Fail on your part to always have the wrong answers in everything I guess, lol.

Other than a couple comments about downloading going very slow for me during beta I never posted here, go back and search my posts if you want to verify it.

BW had their release plans set up from the start and nothing said by the playerbase had anything to do with how many servers they started with. If you know anything about MMO's you know they don't just add servers out of thin air, there is testing and preperation that must happen on every server before they populate it.


My exact kind? What kind is that? Someone who wants a MMO to include the MM part? I am asking for the ability to find groups, I am not asking for anything else.

On this at least we agree

Well..I do remember reading a post from a interview with one of the developers/game leads.etc who did say something along the lines of.." we are going to start with a same server LFG for PVE and cross server for PVP. There are technical issues involved " ..so yeah.there is some speculation on my part and you can take that for what you think applies.

But I donot agree with your opinion of Blizzard's concerns with thier community. What they do is not allways take into account what the forum complainers say, but what thier own internal data shows. And unlike here...it is common on thier forums to see Blizzard blue posts within the threads.

Lol! Exactly. Those opposed to WoW's Looking for Raid tool fail to mention there is allways the option for some who want a bigger challenge to do heroic Dragon Soul. The options are still there for the hardcore raiders. As are the better rewards for doing them successfully.

Complete nonsense! The drop in subs came after Cata released, not due to the x-lfd. Subs spiked after the patch that introduced x-lfd. And for every bad group, there were many good groups. In ToR, the same server groups are 50-50 (when you can get one). Ninja's, bads, d-bags...they're already here without a x-server tool.

Just to touch on a subject I've seen a few people bring up now...

I am on one of the "dead servers". During peak hours, there are rarely more than 100 people on the fleet. This was not a dead server when I chose it at release. It was high population and we regularly experienced queue times like many other servers.

I did not actively pursue a low population server, conversely, I made sure to select a server with a high population, knowing how difficult it can be to find groups or even quality guilds on low population servers.

The presumption that all people on dead or low population servers brought this upon themselves is a little insulting.

That being said, I will gladly take a LFG tool or some kind of server transfer/migration (free or paid). Whichever eases the struggle of forming groups on my server the quickest. While all may be well and good on the servers that have retained their population, the smaller servers just continue to bleed players... and the more players we bleed, the more frustrating it is to find groups... and then we bleed more players... etc. etc. etc.

Well said! I would also add that many of us were ASSIGNED to the servers we're on. Many of us didn't choose where we are, or at least where we started.

You have to explain this math you are trying to quote my friend.

If more people can group where normally they could not they will get the chance at better gear now and then and learn content making them a better player and this means "MORE" and "STRONGER" players to form groups with. Without some form of the LFG tool you have maybe 5% of the players with the ability and gear to form groups with.


"Having to raid"?

You do know this is marketed as a MMO right? Do you think it should only have single player content just with a lot of people around doing the same single player content?

Generally what defines the MMO these days is the raiding. If you eliminate the raiding, most people would not pay their $15 a month.


WoW is raid only? Glad you told me, I made a little over 12k from the auctionhouse with my crafted items, made some food and flasks for the raid groups, am currently leveling my 8th toon (shammy) to go with the 7 lvl 85's I already have. My guild chat was filled with teasing and jokes and I recruited a couple new players over the last couple days.

All of these games are about teamwork to beat content for better gear that makes your toon stronger. This game and every other MMO has endgame raiding as the ultimate goal so please do not be silly.


The main point against a LFG tool is the false claim that it hurts the game, well this simply is not true, I keep point out that if this was true we would not see so many new guilds on the servers all do so well. This is hard fact, and fact nobody can refute.

First off you aren't even quoting me on the right game. I commented on Rift now WoW. Good job at paying attention

Yes. The argument it is our fault for being on a low pop server is so far off the turth. Anyone who would agree with that is only trying to be argumentive to push a opinion they have blindly forward.