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Someone explain the LFG tool hate?

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Someone explain the LFG tool hate?

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Skidrowbro
05.03.2012 , 09:30 AM | #441
Quote: Originally Posted by Muskaan View Post
So, what acc to you is the purpose of the low pop servers if people NEED to reroll for their game fulfillment? Why did Bioware made us waste 3 months and $15/month leveling on a dead server?
Transfers are coming, take your heads out of your..... find a new server that suits your population fit and once the transfers happen, move your other character, not rocket science

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RachelAnne
05.03.2012 , 09:31 AM | #442
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I really feel bad that so many of you feel it necessary to come here and say such wrong things over and over as if it was true, but of course you have no actual proof or facts to back up your claims.
I dont think they are wrong, its the truth. But people dont always want to see the truth

After 6 months people still spread false words of "I must sit in fleet to group" even tho they do know very well that this is a lie.

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If the LFG tool was so bad, why did WoW get stronger after they added it? If the tool eliminated guilds, why are there so many successful guilds on every WoW server? If everyone just runs crazy in the LFG raids why is it so many people do them and are so happy with them they keep paying their $15 a month?
Wow did loose massive sub´s in the last years, to see this you only need to google. The reason that You think it has grown is your lack of understanding the informations that are given to you.

Wow is big at Asia, the massive increase of subs over there and the Asia like addon do cover the massive decrease in subs at europe and the states.

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I have played WoW from vanilla and watched the LFG discussion from it's start and the reason they turned to it is the same reasons most of us are asking for it, nobody to group up with.
Aslong people dont open their eyes for the tools that are there, they will not understand that grouping never was a problem at vanilla. I did every dungeon at the appropiate lvl with every alt of mine until TBC. You did not need a guild for it, but a mouth to talk - or rather fingers to type.

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So the issue is not that people are lazy, or that they want to ninja everything, or that they hate other people, the issue is about having enough people to run with outside that 2 to 4 hour window.
I do play at strange hours due my job and even at 10 am you find groups. Please stop spreading lie´s!

If someone is on a dead server as he didnt want to wait 20 min in queue´s at release then he is unfortunately a victim of his own acting, and should stop complaining but move his char to any server with a mid-high population or join a guild at his old server.

if people would actually try to find a group instead of whining all day here, they would find them. Ofc you wont find a group if all you do is open thread after thread here

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mothear
05.03.2012 , 09:32 AM | #443
I solo most of the time these days, rarely grouping but I am against this change to cross server for two main reasons:

1. I don't want to raid and I see x-server as a lazy way for Bioware to then make the end game raid, PvP or die, if they go down that route I won't be here long. They need to build content for everyone not just those that want to do operations/flashpoints

2. I'm sick of people like Vakirus (who keeps posting here), who has stated that he wants to remain on a light server so he can benefit from the bonus's inherent on light servers, however because the downside is that it is harder to group he wants x-server. He is one of the want, want, want generation who appears, to me to give nothing for anyone else apart from himself.

He knew this game came without a x-server LFG but because of his own decisions to specifically wants to play on a light server wants to impose his way of playing on others.

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zachbuford
05.03.2012 , 09:33 AM | #444
It was kinda nice meeting players from other servers that I havent seen in a while, and occasionally I ask how they have been. I played WoW from mid-Crusades to mid-Cata (cata ruined it for me) and saw no major drawback from the LFG tool. Yes there were ninjas, and yes there were morons, but those people existed without the LFG too. You may not run with people just from your server, but you still have a chance of re-meeting people; I did that in WoW al lthe time. Cross server LFG does not kill the community, simply expands it.

LFG was my favorite part of WoW (other than my mage portals, loved those) for several reasons.
1: Easy access to group content.
2: Saves much time.
3: Allowed me to multitask, farm mats that I needed while in queue for example.
4: Discouraged sitting in town all day doing absolutely nothing. while spamming for a group.
5: Socialization. Occassionally there was a group that said nothing to eachother, but there is more types of communication than just typing/talking. All those players understood eachother's classes well enough and knew their role well enough to just read eachothers' action and act accordingly. This is not a sign of humanity's failure, but more of a grand kind of thing. Those players adapted and preformed skillfully without communicating verbally.

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Timesjoke
05.03.2012 , 09:33 AM | #445
Quote: Originally Posted by Skidrowbro View Post
And again, that's your problem, not Biowares. If you are too stubborn to reroll on a more populated server I do not feel sorry for you


WaIt a second there pal, the staff of this game asked us to spead out so we did not all try to roll on one server from day 1. I did as asked and my server is dead, the lack of players is not may fault, it is their fault for creating twice as many servers as is healthy for grouping.

The MM is missing from this MMO, and that is not my fault.


Why should I throw away a lvl 50 toon as well as a few other toons I have started? The time I spent making these toon is gone, the money I spent to play the game during this time is gone, what do I have to show for it? I will not kill my toon off because BW has a population problem I did not cause.



Besides, even with large populations, groups are still difficult to get during the day on the fatman, if groups are a problem on that server they are all in trouble. The main issue is BW can sustain large numbers on ther servers like WoW does so they had to splinter people off but because people all play at different times, being able to find a complete balanced group on your server during the time you have available to play is a difficult thing to do, even WoW had that problem with much larger populations on each server.....and that is why they created the LFG tool.
No matter how hard you try, you can't beat time.

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Valkirus
05.03.2012 , 09:33 AM | #446
Quote: Originally Posted by Skidrowbro View Post
And again, that's your problem, not Biowares. If you are too stubborn to reroll on a more populated server I do not feel sorry for you
It is very much BioWare's problem. And losing subs because of a lack of some tools will eventually become everyone's problem who plays the game.
Trust is something which is earned.

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Muskaan
05.03.2012 , 09:33 AM | #447
Quote: Originally Posted by Skidrowbro View Post
Transfers are coming, take your heads out of your..... find a new server that suits your population fit and once the transfers happen, move your other character, not rocket science
Typical fanboy response of resorting to abuse when logic fails.

And yes, I have unsubbed and will stay unsubbed till they implement feature like cross-server LFG and server transfers.
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Valkirus
05.03.2012 , 09:39 AM | #448
Quote: Originally Posted by RachelAnne View Post


Wow did loose massive sub´s in the last years, to see this you only need to google. The reason that You think it has grown is your lack of understanding the informations that are given to you.
They did not lose those subs because of the cross server LFG tool. You really think they are so dumb they would expand and improve upon a feature that caused them to lose a lot of subs?
Trust is something which is earned.

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mothear
05.03.2012 , 09:43 AM | #449
Quote: Originally Posted by Valkirus View Post
They did not lose those subs because of the cross server LFG tool. You really think they are so dumb they would expand and improve upon a feature that caused them to lose a lot of subs?
In your opinion. In mine it was part of the symptom that eventually left me with the easy decision to leave

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Skidrowbro
05.03.2012 , 09:45 AM | #450
Quote: Originally Posted by Timesjoke View Post
WaIt a second there pal, the staff of this game asked us to spead out so we did not all try to roll on one server from day 1. I did as asked and my server is dead, the lack of players is not may fault, it is their fault for creating twice as many servers as is healthy for grouping.

The MM is missing from this MMO, and that is not my fault.


Why should I throw away a lvl 50 toon as well as a few other toons I have started? The time I spent making these toon is gone, the money I spent to play the game during this time is gone, what do I have to show for it? I will not kill my toon off because BW has a population problem I did not cause.



Besides, even with large populations, groups are still difficult to get during the day on the fatman, if groups are a problem on that server they are all in trouble. The main issue is BW can sustain large numbers on ther servers like WoW does so they had to splinter people off but because people all play at different times, being able to find a complete balanced group on your server during the time you have available to play is a difficult thing to do, even WoW had that problem with much larger populations on each server.....and that is why they created the LFG tool.
You were probably part of the group that was screaming at Bioware to open more servers because of queue times. Fail on your part. You see, I waited a few months before picking up the game because I made my mistake with Rift. Played that from beta to headstart and up until a month ago and your exact kind has run that game into the ground already, I would prefer to not see Star Wars follow that same path. And FYI, a game does not need 10 million players to survive