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Someone explain the LFG tool hate?

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Someone explain the LFG tool hate?

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RexxThundarr
05.03.2012 , 08:36 AM | #411
holy hells, 41 pages of blah. the answer to the question is very simple: no matter what BW implements, a large number of people will hate it, either for valid reasons or just because they have to yell about something. hell, BW could give everyone free puppies & rainbows, and people would file lawsuits due to allergies to dog hair and the color purple.

good luck with that "arguing on the Innerwebz" thing.

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Skidrowbro
05.03.2012 , 08:38 AM | #412
For the people on very low populated servers I feel for you but you have a choice to play on other servers and once transfers kick in you can move your toon. As for the LFG hate, it's not so much the tool but what it brings out in players. In the fun days when there was no LFG douche bags were held accountable for their actions. They either had to buck up and quit action.g like morons or they never got into groups but one the X-LFG came into play they had free reign again to be the douche that they are.

Another thing about blizzard is that Activision bought them out and what big game does Activision make? That's right CoD. So their view on the MMO world was to bring console players who have no concept of real group play so now they need something.g to get these guys into the game and voila, X-LFG is born. Oh but these guys have no idea how to play? Ok simple, lets lower the difficulty of the dudungeons so the fps players can complete them.

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Blackardin
05.03.2012 , 08:43 AM | #413
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This is all a moot point. Bioware will implement an LFG tool, and for technical / 'let the community adapt' reasons it will be single server at first, but eventually it will go cross server.

It is NOT a matter of IF, it is a matter of WHEN.
Actually it will be server wide only. That is what they stated. They stated that they would not be making it cross server just as they stated (again, thank the maker) that meters would never be in game.

For the record, that coupled with server merges, transport to and from dungeons, greater reward motivation for leveling groups are all items that I fully support as they are a far, far better, far more effective tool with far less negative side effects then a random cross server LFG.

This entire discussion is moot, but centered around a few posters that simply will not allow themselves to explore any alternate beyond what they have convinced themselves is a panacea even in light of boatloads of evidence that it is not, not for this type of game. If a cross server LFG was the best and only option (which the dev team of wow believed at the time), I would support it, but its not. Its a dinosaur. There is a better way.

Note: If you have found anything that suggests that there will eventually be a cross server LFG, please post it and I will stand corrected in that regard. I've yet to find so it will be interesting to read. Appreciate it. ;p).
May the Schwartz be with you....

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Blackardin
05.03.2012 , 08:44 AM | #414
Quote: Originally Posted by RexxThundarr View Post
holy hells, 41 pages of blah. the answer to the question is very simple: no matter what BW implements, a large number of people will hate it, either for valid reasons or just because they have to yell about something. hell, BW could give everyone free puppies & rainbows, and people would file lawsuits due to allergies to dog hair and the color purple.

good luck with that "arguing on the Innerwebz" thing.
LOL. so very true. ;p
May the Schwartz be with you....

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Blackardin
05.03.2012 , 08:46 AM | #415
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For the people on very low populated servers I feel for you but you have a choice to play on other servers and once transfers kick in you can move your toon. As for the LFG hate, it's not so much the tool but what it brings out in players. In the fun days when there was no LFG douche bags were held accountable for their actions. They either had to buck up and quit action.g like morons or they never got into groups but one the X-LFG came into play they had free reign again to be the douche that they are.
Exactly. The entirety of the thread reduced to a single paragraph.

I'll depart the thread on that note.

Thank you good sir.
May the Schwartz be with you....

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DigitalPrime
05.03.2012 , 08:48 AM | #416
This thread is going round and round. The pro X-server group seem to miss over the points brought forward, blind that other alternatives work and have worked for nearly 2 decades. Then they start making assumptions to why we dont want x-server. BW feel the same, im sure they are assuming aswell ey?

X-server allows people to find a group - So does the current system

It allows players to find players at anytime - So does a server merg, you will always find players who game around the same time you do. Its how MMOs have worked for years, Way before your presious WoW.

So, if all bases are covered with other systems which are incoming and have been addressed. Why are you making up reasons for X server? because wow has it.... TOR isnt wow, BW are not Bliz.

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Timesjoke
05.03.2012 , 08:48 AM | #417
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackardin View Post
Another fly-by. Maybe I should come in lower. LOL

sorry, no offense there. Just kidding a bit.

The difference is that your example will not force his way into my group through some random chance. The one in mine will, time and time again. Your can be held accountable, mine cannot. Stop trying to dance this discussion all over the place with visceral reactive replies and concentrate rather on the reasoning being explained.
You are the one dancing all over the place, you 'claim' that a LFG tool will destroy a MMO but the facts are something else.

I have been in thousands of LFG runs and a pure idiot being able to stay is an extreme rarity. Go to WoWprogress and look up guilds by realms, you will see many thousands of strong guild having large memberships and guild achievements for completing endgame content. If what you say is true, in that a LFG tool completely erases all community, how do you explain so many powerful guild completing endgame content in WoW?

The truth is, there is no harm in the slightest with a LFG tool, the only thing that the LFG tool does is break the stranglehold the few Elitists have over the content.
No matter how hard you try, you can't beat time.

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DigitalPrime
05.03.2012 , 08:50 AM | #418
Quote: Originally Posted by Timesjoke View Post
The truth is, there is no harm in the slightest with a LFG tool, the only thing that the LFG tool does is break the stranglehold the few Elitists have over the content.
We have a new one, they just get better and better.

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Paretheus
05.03.2012 , 08:54 AM | #419
Why don't we try using the LFG utility built in to the "Who" function that already exists? Very few people use that, from my experience, even though it could be extremely useful.

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Darth_Bond
05.03.2012 , 08:55 AM | #420
Quote: Originally Posted by PalawaJoko View Post
Some people think it's social to spam LFG on the chat and never get a group of people to actually spend time with lol
you sir....are awsome, stealing that for my sig.
Story is so important i sold starwars to disney and asked jj abrams to direct the new star wars film....and that is why we cant have faction change!