Someone explain the LFG tool hate?

I get this feelng that most anti-LFG'ers want to get the feeling they had when they played that very special MMO 7 years ago where more "social "interaction was required.
To many conservative people are holding back the development of this game, which suck balls.

Feel free to NOT use the lfg tool and /whisper your friends in your guild to group up and do ops or whatever you want, and let us with limited time to use the LFG tool as much as we want, kthx

It does solve the problem. X-server Tools brings people who want to group up together, nothing more. That's fact, not opinion.
have you spammed LF tank in fleet lately?
Lack of accountability? Do you know about the Kick button? There is no accountability now because nobody wants to kick that player and go back to fleet to spam fleet for another hour.

Sure if your queing in solo, but who does that? People usually que in with friends or Guildies. Also, at least you can spend those 45 minutes in que doing whatever you want and not being stuck in one location. People who sit in Cities in que is a personal choice, it's not needed for LFD.

It's flying quite well in other games. Maybe it doesn't fly for YOU, but that's opinion.
Server merges don't promise anything. Players will still have difficulties finding groups at low peak times and also find groups for lower-level content in the future. Even on a High populated server, it would be near impossible to find a group on WoW for pre-85 dungeons.
Ya ya, and rumor is the Dev team on WoW was against the LFD and yet they came out with the LFR. What the Devs really care about is keeping their jobs.

Goes back to the illusion there's some sort of community on servers. Which makes little to no sense at all. What community? The some odd random people runing around fleet you never see again? Your guild? How does it affect your guild? It doesn't.

Some people think the LFG tool has mind controlling properties that make people lie, cheat, and steal. Turns you into a general d-bag they say, lol... Well I have news for you. If you run into a d-bag they were one all along and it isn't due to a LFG tool.

Mainly people are just ignorant. Going against the grain just so they can go against the grain and be different.

This is a good point. In the many thousands of X-LFG runs I did as a healer in WoW, I was never subjected to the tool's mind control. I never ninja looted. I never face-pulled (purposely). I always did my level best to contribute to the group's success.

Maybe the tinfoil hat I always wear protected me from the evil X-LFG mind control rays?

Or maybe it's a religious argument for them, and we all know how people react when logic challenges their religion.

Loving the assumptions guys. Keep em coming!

This is what I've stated from day one. The 'community' for SWTOR is ALL players playing the game, not some artificially created subset based on hardware configurations.

Are there subsets to the SWTOR community? Sure.

Though subsets can and should include everything from your personal guild and friends to your server to groups based on common language, age groups, locations, other affiliations, PVPer, PVEer, RPer, etc.

So why aren't we moving towards a more inclusive and all-encompassing community with tools that allow us to create and manage our own individually defined sub communities?

I not only want cross server LFG, I want better social tools both in game and through this website (or others) to find, communicate, share and group.

If I was running SWTOR, you would have the ability to create account and character level connections with other players across all servers, you would be able to share information about yourself and your game experiences with others both in game and through the website (with what is shared totally under your control), and you would be able to communicate and group with others across servers while in game.

And that would be just the beginning.

We live in an age where global travel, technical advancement, and the rise of social networks and connections bring more people together, with the ability to share more knowledge and experience, than ever before.

So why are our games that are supposedly social in nature designed like we are back in the stone ages with little isolated pockets of humanity that all struggle to survive in their small little corners of the globe?

Why are so many of you guys making such horribly wrong comments? Do you really believe this tripe or is there some other motivation causing you to intentionally misrepresent what the LFG tool does to help the community?

The LFG tool has been part of the WoW community for a very long time, if what you say is true, WoW would already be dead and gone but instead it is growing bigger and has a new expansion in the works.

My own Guild has around 400 members with 4 days a week regular raiding. We all use the LFG tool "AND" we run as guild groups. The idea that LFG ruins community is completely false.

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The only thing that is "ruined" by a LFG tool is the inflated heads of the Elitists who believe endgame content is only there for them. In their world casual players should never be allowed to see endgame content.

The further content that you are speaking of, is that the LFR, which, shortly thereafter lead to the guild community collapsing like a house of cards and millions of subscriptions going south? Last look at my once flourishing server had 200 people prime time in its entirety. Last LFG queue for my dps had a wait time of 45 minutes. Wow is moving in a different direction, toward a hard core instant grat, kiddie shooter designed around high end raid content and little else involving MMORPG gaming.

If that is what you seek, I can't argue with you, but I can argue that you go back there and cease trying to bring that here. I would also have to ask why, if you find that attractive you are even here instead of playing Wow. Does not make sense that one would do so.

Look, a bit of reality here. It took me about a minute to find a complaint posts asking for yet another fix for a system implemented several years ago, still not functioning well. First page, about three posts down. It also represents the type of player it breeds. Honestly, looking back to it gave me a chill. LOL

Here's another. first response. the ole, gear checker. Read the underlined statement.

Sorry skip.These are the types of player that system that Wow introduced attracts. This is the type of player that they supported, that crippled the community, that drove guilds and good players away. This is the scenario that repeats itself ad nausium in that game.

Is this truly the type of player you want to enter a dungeon with? Is this the scenario you seek to achieve? Does this look like a fun experience with people that you will enjoy and later group with again? Does it look like they even completed the dungeon?

We all have the right to our opinions, but as I stated, stop painting the LFG as a panacea, it is far from such, very far.

Based on his writing alone, I'm going to go ahead and assume he probably richly deserved a vote-kick. Not the best example of the system working poorly.

To be honest, I don't understand the point the poster you quoted was trying to make. From what I read there, someone who equipped high enough level gear (but woefully wrong gear) to get into the instance was vote-kicked and is complaining about it. Does that not show accountability was enforced? Someone who was ill-prepared and thus could only hinder the group (or leech off them if the rest were good enough) got his just desserts, right?

So why are you here?

If you are running four raid nights a week, using the LFG (supposedly on alternate nights), how is it that you have time to play another game? Why would you even want to if you enjoy that so much.

Like much of the hyperbole here, I'm calling this one as yet another that just blindly seeks an LFG and will promulgate any falsehood to support the argument.

BTW, what guild. I'd like to armory them and check the numbers because we all know how guild membership reflects actual active players.