Someone explain the LFG tool hate?

a single server tool does not fix the problem. Just like in rift:

• it won't help low pop servers at all
• it won't help decent* pop servers off peak times
• it won't help decent* pop servers for low levels

*as in: everything but the 1 or 2 highest population servers.

sure you can... you just have to use non-circular logic.

It hurts the community therefore it hurts the community, QED ... isn't really a valid explanation as to how it hurts the community.

Nor is "it causes <x negative effect on the community>" a valid explanation, unless you can actually show causation ... and so far, noone has done so.

Did you overlook my point.."Not to the degree hardcore gamers do"...or only see the parts you wanted to see? The LFR tool in WoW lets the casual gamers do the end game content and rewards them with 384 - 390 level gear. Which is a little better than the 378 5 man heroic gear but not as good as the normal Dragon Soul raid gear ( 397 - 403) or the heroic Dragon Soul raid gear ( 403 - 411 ). I am sure this is not that hard to understand..

Again, I will ask for proof of your assertion...
Where is it that "most" people dont want LFG? This thread alone is 8 to1 in favor... go back and count them... I did.
Where is the report stating that it ruined WoW?
Where is the dev post saying it ruined WoW?
Where are the annual earnings reports linking LFG to the downfall of a game that still has over 10 million subs?
Where is anything but your bias opinion that it ruined anything?

Your biggest problem is you using the all time biggest MMO as the example of a "ruined game" and it still is the most successful with over 10x's the amount of subs that Swtor does... kinda messes up your " it ruined the game" mantra doesn't it?
LOL I bet EA would love to have a "ruined game" by having 10 million subs......

Yes you can friend them... just like in WoW and Rift... battle net and now battle tag... you can even do dungeons with them cross server by inviting them... your points are completely false and you are woefully misinformed about the mechanics of the games your playing...

^This

How many times can we do this?
You state that LFG ruins the game, we ask to be shown any proof... anything at all that proves this or even remotely suggests it.
You come back with: It ruins the game because it ruins the community, it ruins the community because it ruins the game."

Huh???

The failure of the community and the devs to even acknowledge that WOW has some great features that could be used in SWTOR shows not only the arrogance of the community but also shows how little they care if you play the game or not.

Can you imagine walking into any other business and responding to suggestions like this community has?

-Hey Walmart id like to suggest you guys open at mightnight the day after thanksgiving like best buy, it really works out well for me and would be completely optional for the people who perfer to come in at 5am...

-Screw yourself, if you want a feature like that go shop at best buy then, this isnt best buy!.

Just trying to put in perspective how arrogrant this communtiy is, please dont ever complain about empty servers if your unwilling to see optional features put into the game to assist people with limited time.
The servers are empty largely because the die hard star wars fans didnt want "WOWers" playing "their" game. Well most of the wow people are gone back to their "easy" game and now your left with 40 or so near empty serers.

enjoy, the truth hurts a bit but at least i was willing to say it instead of pretending.

Yet. A single server LFD tool will not solve the issue. X-server will follow soon after (may take a few months). WoW went through the same series of moves until they got the nice tool they have today; SWTOR will learn this lesson as well.

Even on a populated server it takes forever to find groups, I have played WOW and used the LFG almost weekly to fill in the empty spots of my groups with my friends.

Actually keep the LFG tool out of the game and watch the number of casual subscribers continue to fall, the few that still play the game will enjoy the better "free month offers" and come back please offers.

Good idea! This type of stance just continues to bring the game one step closer to free for everyone.

Lol! Yeah..we can show with proof like Blizzard is expanding the cross server tool for Looking for Raid even more in thier next expansion which indicates they feel it has been very successful for thier game, while they simply give out opinions based primarly on thier personal experences ( which in many cases I feel are exaggerated ) and hatred for the system. And they will come back with WoW is losing so many subs...etc etc...but ignore the fact Blizzard does not think it has anything to do with thier cross server LFG tool. Blizz is well aware of why they have lost subs and it is based on several factors. But not one of them is the LFG as a major factor.

No, we're already 100% anonymous. A tool just removes the waiting part, which is why people are asking for it.

I have to agree with you here...
The good thing is though... it wont matter if its dead, I will be able to do the content I pay for and want to play no matter if anyone else on my server logs on or not....

That is the whole point of the pro LFG side... It allows us to have the choice... your stance is taking away my choice and I do not pay my monthly fee to play the game the way YOU think I should.