Someone explain the LFG tool hate?

My post will probly go unnoticed here, but it still needs to be pointed out.

First off, everyone in this thread does make pretty good points for and against the LFG tool. But imo these arguements work for large communities.

I know we all hate using WoW for an example, but this is a true statement imo and those who play(ed) the game can relate. As a dps in WoW, the cross server LFG tool can take anywhere from 10minutes to an hour depending on the time of day you qued up for a dungeon at end game level 85. Take that and think about a very low community such as SWTOR which is spread out through many servers. Imagine if we already had the cross server LFG tool. With the low population we have, it would still take a dps player over an hour to finally get into a group...at prime time, maybe less but I think you all get the point. And then of course, you have to hope that the group is solid with no bad players that keep pulling or having no ninjas or aholes.

I do understand some of the hate on the LFG tool, especially the cross server one. But it actually is needed, moreover I think there are much more people that want a cross server LFG than those who don't. I personally would like to see single server LFG tool as a start, but I know it probably won't be enough, and the ques could take forever more often than being short.

Disagree if you want to, but look at the que times for WoW and compare it to what ours would be if we had the cross server tool already.

Again, as I said before, my sarcastic 'insulting is so mature' remark was aimed at a group, not you specifically. I'm sorry if you took that so personally. And yes, I could have used better wording to make that more clear.



'Crying on a forum'? lol You just love trolling. Ok, I'm game. Generally, in today's day and age, I find writing a snail mail letter to a company useless. I generally use the phone first unless they have a good online tool then I'll sometimes use that. Because of my schedule, I rarely can make an in-person visit and I rarely, if ever, consider it worth my while to take a day off to do it. Whichever format, I use, I explain the problem to them and give them an opportunity to fix said problem. If said problem isn't resolved, I then take my business elsewhere. The funny thing is that some of the best offers I've ever recieved have been offered while making the cancellation phone call. That's RL though.

This is a computer game. If I try to make an in-person visit to Bioware to lodge a complaint, I'll probably, in the very least, find myself escorted out by security no matter how calm and mature I am about lodging said complaint (for very understandable reasons). A snail mail would be useless and a waste of paper...which leads to a topic we should avoid on this forum lol. A phone call is an option, but in my experience, calling an MMO's company number usually just gets you referred to their online forums...so here I am!

It's a very poor attitude to have, coming into an MMO. I'd rather play with everyone I can in the game, than wall myself into a server and scream about how evil those outside it were.

I did not overlook your post. And you did make some good points. But I had to post a reply to your allmost a hour long que times for LFG runs in WoW. I run in the early mornings and evenings using the LFG/LFR too as dps and my ques times are consistently less then 30 mins. 10 - 20 mins is the norm. Even for Looking for Raid.

I did not overlook your post. And you did make some good points. But I had to post a reply to your allmost a hour long que times for LFG runs in WoW. I run in the early mornings and evenings using the LFG/LFR too as dps and my ques times are consistently less then 30 mins. 10 - 20 mins is the norm. Even for Looking for Raid.

What is honestly poor here is possibly your grasp of what cross server LFG tools do to all communities from all servers. You may feel free to play with as many as you wish. No one would deny you that. However, I like knowing the people I play with. I also like to know that players will be held accountable if they choose to behave like an arse when they group with others. When players come from all over into groups then those who choose to misbehave can do so at their leisure with very little repercussions. Your vision is admirable but not as practical as you may hope. The 800 pound MMO Gorilla is a huge victim of this very concept.

Could you maybe describe for us what this "accountability" looks like in practice?

I've already rerolled onto my fourth server not a big deal
Guess what? Even with a cross server LFD tool, you will still be on a dead server.

No worries mate...
This happens all the time with my GF, we will be discussing one thing and she will throw an emotional tirade into the conversation and try and totally move off topic when she sees she is wrong.
Its all good.



Now damn it... stop using logic and facts to mess up his arguments!!! There is just no place for that in this discussion!!