Someone explain the LFG tool hate?

Well with the WoW system you can, what with the battle.net account system and all

Ah yes, insulting people who have a different opinion from yours is so mature...

This is one of the best examples someone has offered for the so called "community" argument against a LFG tool.

The problem is, the "community" he speaks of has never existed in this game. Sure, there are a few very tiny pools of Elitists who are trying to preserve "their idea" of what a MMO "should be" but they are mostly trying to preserve their own feelings of superiority over the other players. This person clearly shows that he desires to boss other people around and if they do not do as he orders them to do, they should be punished, excluded and shunned.

Each of us pay the same money to play this game, why should only the most self-centered Elitists be allowed to tell everyone else in the game they are not worthy to see endgame content?


I can only play during the day, there are no guilds on my server doing any operations during the day. NONE. I have worked hard to develop my toon, done endless boring dailies and spent a lot of my credits upgrading and tweeking but all that work is for nothing because there is nobody doing runs when I can play on my server. I have a lvl 50 toon that is worthless right now because I have done everything that can be done alone and there are no groups running on my server during the day.

The worse part is the few Elitists who want their closed society type of community can have it, nobody is saying you can't limit your play to only those who want a super strict forced guild environment, the only thing that will change is the power the Elitists have to force other people to conform to their control by force. And there is the real problem.......every single person saying "no" to a LFG tool is motivated by their desire to force other people to play this game "their way" and by "their rules". No individuality, no personal flair, no fun, to them this game is more of a job, not a game to be having fun playing.

If anyone is interested, I created a LFG Finder Tool!

If you wanna help with some ideas, this is my link to the Suggestion Box
--> Suggestion Box: LFG Finder

Nobody stops people from doing that after Cross-Server. People just don't. That's not a tool destroying a community, that's people not bothering to have one.

I am personally all for a LFG tool, what I am against is a cross-server one. This was, to me anyway, the worst thing WoW could have done to its game. It took away your servers ability to police itself. People would queue with this, knowing that no matter how they acted or what they did in that group, they would still be able to get another group right after the one they were a dick in. To me, it promoted being a ******* in people that, normally, would not have acted like that if they only could group on their own server because they would know that, eventually, they would not be able to find a group.

Then there is the issue of it hurting guilds. Before the x-server LFG tool in WoW, guilds would go out and group with other people on the server and look for possible recruits, if they found someone good they would suggest going and putting in an app for their guild. With x-server, everyone you grouped with became a nameless player. It just took so much from the server community.

The few times per week that what you actually described above actually happened to me in WoW, out of the 25+ runs per week, yeah, it is an acceptable risk.

Also, Rep only mattered to the the relatively few people on a server. Funny, that every server I played on in WoW during the Vanilla and Burning Crusades days, that I always saw the consistent ninja looters keep on getting geared up, even faster then I was, despite being put on ignore lists, and guess what, 2 years later those same ninja looters were still getting geared up, getting groups in Burning Crusade. The fact is, the vast majority of the players on a server didn't know who he was, they just put him on ignore and move on, but he still had the rest of the server to get groups with.

In this day and age, server rep is only known by a few, the vast majority don't know or don' t care.

I never said I belonged to the former group, lol, so you have no idea WHAT my opinion is.


Having said that, you have to admit that the stomp-your-feet, bratty "Do this BW, or I quit" is rather immature. I think we all agree on that. I may even agree with the reasons underlying their rage, but making childish blackmail threats is, well, childish.

I'm all for an LFG tool; there is no acceptable reason to NOT have it. Some will say that it destroys server communities (specifically cross-server ones), but in SWTOR its not a problem because there is NO sense of server community. People rarely talk and on my server (Corellian Run) guilds don't seem to be recruiting so people in my situation don't have a stable of people to run with reliably. Not to mention that this wouldn't affect said guild groups anyway; they are still free to group together to do content and ignore the rest of the server as always.

I've been posting in this thread from the beginning and have not seen anything even close to this... I just re-skimmed it all and again, saw nothing to justify your comments...

While I agree with your premiss...(giving ultimatums to get your way is dumb/childish) it has no basis in this thread, so again... why are you posting this here?

Find a thread where there is some "stomping of your feet" type stuff and post it there?

Jus Sayin...