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Should A game Like SWTOR Come to Xbox360

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Should A game Like SWTOR Come to Xbox360

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Balrizangor
04.30.2012 , 10:41 AM | #61
Quote: Originally Posted by Shingara View Post

Yes, thats why i previously stated this would only work with something like the soon to come xbox 720. But it also depends on the type of tech behind the cloud servers. it could possibly give faster loading times as the cloud server could pre load everything and have better tech then your pc does.

The only thing then is latency.
I am guessing you don't understand how or what exactly a cloud "server" is huh?
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Shingara
04.30.2012 , 10:43 AM | #62
Quote: Originally Posted by Balrizangor View Post
I am guessing you don't understand how or what exactly a cloud "server" is huh?

Suppose your going to try and tell me that games cant be played from a cloud server, or that there are no cloud companys dedicated to gaming, or how the tech isnt available for it, well your wrong, go look up onlive. I have linked it earlier in the topic and to think that EA wont some day go into it with origin to expand there market is simply laughable.
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Andryah
04.30.2012 , 10:48 AM | #63
Quote: Originally Posted by Shingara View Post
Have you ever tried onlive, seen onlive or had onlive. me thinks not. Add to that the xbox 720 is suppossed to be amd parts and more powerful then the average pc so it aint beyond the realms of doable once that thing is out.
Cloud technology is optimized for mass data storage and piped single target data streaming NOT dynamic MMO content where many client pipes are all interacting at once. Cloud is single client optimized, which is the antithesis of an MMO environment.

Can you play games via Cloud? Absolutely. Anything you can play on your smartphone or tablet can most likely be played via cloud (and probably is via cloud).

Can you play simple non data intensive MMOs via Could? Absolutely. Some MMOs are played via Browsers.

Can you play a highly dynamic, multi-client, graphic and processor intensive MMO via cloud? NOPE. Maybe someday, but don't hold your breath.
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Shingara
04.30.2012 , 10:53 AM | #64
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
Cloud technology is optimized for mass data storage and piped single target data streaming NOT dynamic MMO content where many client pipes are all interacting at once. Cloud is single client optimized, which is the antithesis of an MMO environment.

Can you play games via Cloud? Absolutely. Anything you can play on your smartphone or tablet can most likely be played via cloud (and probably is via cloud).

Can you play simple non data intensive MMOs via Could? Absolutely. Some MMOs are played via Browsers.

Can you play a highly dynamic, multi-client, graphic and processor intensive MMO via cloud? NOPE. Maybe someday, but don't hold your breath.

Please do research before you comment, it will save you much face http://www.onlivespot.net/2012/01/ub...based-mmo.html and work with xbox 720
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dhoytman
04.30.2012 , 11:01 AM | #65
I'm not going to repeat the obvious stock response of "MMOs for PC only noob lol" but it's true--this game was specifically designed for the PC. A game like DC Universe Online worked really well on a console, but it was designed with such gameplay in mind. You only need a certain number of buttons for it.

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Andryah
04.30.2012 , 11:13 AM | #67
Quote: Originally Posted by Shingara View Post

Please do research before you comment, it will save you much face http://www.onlivespot.net/2012/01/ub...based-mmo.html and work with xbox 720
A speculative press announcement about an alleged development of a product not yet released HARDLY COUNTS AS ANY RESEARCH TO PROVE YOUR POINT ABOUT CLOUD TECHNOLOGY.

Nice try though.

Now, what they are actually doing here I believe is using Cloud to loosely connect essentially re-ported/redesigned FPS/RPG games. Essentially larger versions of todays multi-player via LIVE. But to call them MMOs is kind of a fallacy of the press release. The entire article is based on job postings at Ubisoft. A) the job postings could be deliberate deception as to product development (even though they contain accurate statements about the job skill requirements. B) if you have interviewed or high tech jobs in the industry, you know that job descriptions rarely accurately reflect the details of actual projects (even when the position is for a Project Manager.
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Shingara
04.30.2012 , 11:18 AM | #68
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
A speculative press announcement about an alleged development of a product not yet released HARDLY COUNTS AS ANY RESEARCH TO PROVE YOU POINT ABOUT CLOUD TECHNOLOGY.

Nice try though.

Now, what they are actually doing here I believe is using Cloud to loosely connect essentially re-ported FPS/RPG games. Essentially larger versions of todays multi-player via LIVE. But to call them MMOs is kind of a fallacy of the press release.

Jesus h and nora batty's socks how many times do i have to repeat myself before it sinks in for some people i do not know. I shall repeat for the hard of reading.

WHEN the xbox 720 comes out, using that with mixed in cloud tech could and will technically allow for swtor to be played via a keyboard and mouse from an xbox 720 if its all that people are saying. If EA also get into cloud gaming in a big way for there origin it isnt beyond the realms of doable that swtor could be ported to xbox 720 this way with the bulk of the data stored on the xbox 720 and the rest held in the cloud and ported to the console via cloud interface.

And if companys are already doing mmogs with cloud it isnt to hard to beleieve with the next gen of gear that mmorpgs can be done the same.

Now how hard is that to understand, obviously pritty hard for some but i give in.
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First, you can continue as a subscriber, which gives you unlimited access to all game features and future Game Updates at no additional charge. http://www.swtor.com/info/news/blog/20120731

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BadOrb
04.30.2012 , 11:19 AM | #69
Bioware probably wouldn't want to pay the 40 , 000 dollars to patch the game , each time so they probably wont do it. PS3 on the other hand have stopped that dev charge of 40 k for 1 f2p game so why not more. Also Phantasy star universe is an mmo on the 360 and no you don't need to have a gold account to play it , but alas Sega have stopped paying the 40 k to patch any new weapons graphics for about 9 months , shame really.

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Andryah
04.30.2012 , 11:28 AM | #70
Quote: Originally Posted by Shingara View Post

WHEN the xbox 720 comes out, using that with mixed in cloud tech could and will technically allow for swtor to be played via a keyboard and mouse from an xbox 720 if its all that people are saying. If EA also get into cloud gaming in a big way for there origin it isnt beyond the realms of doable that swtor could be ported to xbox 720 this way with the bulk of the data stored on the xbox 720 and the rest held in the cloud.
Total speculation on your part, absent of any actual fact relative to SWTOR. I do however applaud your use of conditional statements when trying to make a definitive case. You have A LOT of IF in there.

Quote: Originally Posted by Shingara View Post
And if companys are already doing mmogs with cloud it isnt to hard to beleieve with the next gen of gear that mmorpgs can be done the same.
See, there is the rub, no such MMO properties exist..... only allegatations that they will sometime in the future. AND if they do, it will be on a totally new architecture of a gaming platform. Keep in mind, many grand plans in the tech arena never come to fruition, for many reaons (often techical).

Quote: Originally Posted by Shingara View Post

Now how hard is that to understand, obviously pritty hard for some but i give in.
Setting aside your condescending tone..... your idea is easy to understand......your statement that your idea is fact however lacks substance of any objective form.

Now, where Cloud technology will dominate for the game producers in the future is going to be on creating more head room for gaming in tablets and smart phones. IF you did your research on cloud computing from a strategic point of view, you would know that this is where the subscriber base of the future lies, and hence where the companies will go. NOT gaming consoles and PCs.

Full disclosure: I work for one of the companies that is developing and providing Cloud technology to large enterprise customers. And that is all the detail I will provide.
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