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Guild Wars 2 Beta Weekend. SWTOR or GW2, what do you prefer?

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Guild Wars 2 Beta Weekend. SWTOR or GW2, what do you prefer?

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swTTT
04.29.2012 , 02:02 PM | #71
Quote: Originally Posted by Shingara View Post
With the way the forums have been flamed since even before launch i would expect it to be about even, thing is all the peeps shouting tera would be king are quiet, if thats due to tera now being out or not is another matter. Also the peeps who have screamed that GW2 would kill swtor are v quiet also. But what do you expect now the proof is out there to what gw2 is gonna bring to the table.

If they spend all there time on here now then there is obviously something wrong with the games they called the messiah.
quiet cause were all to busy playing gw2 and not sitting in the fleet all day waiting for que pops against the same 15 people mad?
You and your pitiful little band....

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Oofpez
04.29.2012 , 02:04 PM | #72
Quote: Originally Posted by swTTT View Post
quiet cause were all to busy playing gw2 and not sitting in the fleet all day waiting for que pops against the same 15 people mad?
Shouldn't you be playing GW2? Why are you here on the forums?

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kottonmouth
04.29.2012 , 02:04 PM | #73
Quote: Originally Posted by Metallistic View Post
I played the beta this weekend. Guild Wars 2 stomps SWTOR on all levels except some minor PvP annoyances.
this. swtor is dead, these fanboys are the last remnant of it's playerbase...ofcourse they are loyal to swtor. from what ive seen guild wars 2 is an evolution of this stale genre, while swtor is a step back from many games that have been out for years. the few ppl i know playing gw2 right now confirm my sentiment whole heartidly. i can say with confidence I probably wont be using the free month given to me...thx anyway i guess bw?
PvP should be based on skill NOT expertise.

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nissanmaxima
04.29.2012 , 02:06 PM | #74
Quote: Originally Posted by Fizbanic View Post
Ok it is F2P but realistically it isn't that free. Any business out there is out to make a profit above all else. Just with any MMO they have to have an income that exceed's their output obviously. Paying 15 per month covers the costs of most MMO's these days. That is for staff, servers etc...

Now GW2 needs to cover costs as well so they set up micro transactions, again they are out to make a profit. The attitude you can see here as well other MMO's is people want the best gear without having to jump through hoops to get it. Go and look through the forums and you will see it everywhere, people whining about grinding for the Best PVP gear, or whining for the beat PVE gear but have no time to raid and thing that is unfair.

Now playing off that weakness GW2 sets up micro transactions to get some of the best stuff. Now you can get what you want instantly but just need to fork out real dollars for it. This can cost more then a 2 month sub in any other MMO. Again a bit of time goes by and they release some cooler/better gear and here you go again forking out the cash and so on and so forth. After a year you can nearly spend twice what you would if you were paying for a years sub.

Remember, this is a business and they are out to make a profit.

Dynamic Events almost remind me of the rifts in well Rift. After about 2 days of that it got tiring fast.

I'll be honest outright, haven't played the beta, never played GW at all have read and watched what I could on it be a little bit informed and nothing jumped at me at all.
LOL did you not read anything? The cash shop in GW2 will not sell anything that will benifit the player or make his/her character more powerful whatsoever. The cash shop in GW2 will be for Asthetics only. /facepalm

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Wolfeisberg
04.29.2012 , 02:07 PM | #75
Quote: Originally Posted by Fizbanic View Post
Ok it is F2P but realistically it isn't that free. Any business out there is out to make a profit above all else. Just with any MMO they have to have an income that exceed's their output obviously. Paying 15 per month covers the costs of most MMO's these days. That is for staff, servers etc...

Now GW2 needs to cover costs as well so they set up micro transactions, again they are out to make a profit. The attitude you can see here as well other MMO's is people want the best gear without having to jump through hoops to get it. Go and look through the forums and you will see it everywhere, people whining about grinding for the Best PVP gear, or whining for the beat PVE gear but have no time to raid and thing that is unfair.

Now playing off that weakness GW2 sets up micro transactions to get some of the best stuff. Now you can get what you want instantly but just need to fork out real dollars for it. This can cost more then a 2 month sub in any other MMO. Again a bit of time goes by and they release some cooler/better gear and here you go again forking out the cash and so on and so forth. After a year you can nearly spend twice what you would if you were paying for a years sub.

Remember, this is a business and they are out to make a profit.

Dynamic Events almost remind me of the rifts in well Rift. After about 2 days of that it got tiring fast.

I'll be honest outright, haven't played the beta, never played GW at all have read and watched what I could on it be a little bit informed and nothing jumped at me at all.
Except for the fact that you can't buy power from the micro transaction store of Guild Wars 2, you can't buy gear from the shop at all, except for costumes that are for looks only, have no stats on them at all.
How do you measure the success of an MMO?
http://www.arena.net/blog/is-it-fun-...asures-success

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swTTT
04.29.2012 , 02:07 PM | #76
Quote: Originally Posted by Oofpez View Post
Shouldn't you be playing GW2? Why are you here on the forums?
beta is about to end so im back to this garbage game friend told me there was only 20 people on fleet during prime time yesterday when theres usually 120-150 does that tell you something?
You and your pitiful little band....

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haradakuseven
04.29.2012 , 02:07 PM | #77
Quote: Originally Posted by HammersteinSW View Post
GW 2 - unlike Swtor, is a true next-gen mmo. Especially for pvpers it will be THE mmo to play for the next years.

Imagine if a game takes all the best pvp elements from Warhammer, Age of Conan and WoW and then combines them - then you get GW 2. The pvp is fantastic, I did some sieges this weekend and the world vs world events fondly remind me of my days in Shadowbane - but unlike Shadowbane the game works and does not lag. Defenders can build up their castles and attackers can place siege engines and fire them.

Also in terms of graphics it pretty much blows Swtor away. Compared to the epic castles in GW2, like the human's capital, the Swtor cities seem small, stale and liveless. Also the client does not crap itself when there are dozens of players on screen - and this is a beta version, the live version will be even smoother and faster.

And on top of that you have way more customization for your character in GW2. In Swtor you are bound to a single weapon and maybe 2-3 different specs. In GW2 you can have different weapons for a class and each weapon is not only cosmetic but has it's own unique skillset. Add traits, gear and stat points and you have way more variety.
I found this quote quite confusing, he says it's a next gen MMO then goes on to describe mechanics he's seen in other MMO. Next gen, to me, signifies that it does something that previous mmo's have never done before because they simply couldn't, not that it does what other mmo's have done before just better.

I will give Guild Wars 2 a fair shake, I didn't op into the beta because I thought the idea of buying the game to get in was really sketchy, plus the game has some premium on it in the UK making it cost £45 everywhere which I wasn't going to pony up just to see if I like a game.

I have not enjoyed the videos I've seen of the game but without playing it I won't judge. I do not think the graphics are that spectacular either and I know I'm not the only one who thinks that.

I will get it, but as of right now I think SWTOR is a more appealing game.

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llesna
04.29.2012 , 02:10 PM | #78
I can't say GW interests me really. I'm just looking forward to seeing SWTOR improve dramatically over time.

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Oofpez
04.29.2012 , 02:10 PM | #79
Quote: Originally Posted by swTTT View Post
beta is about to end so im back to this garbage game friend told me there was only 20 people on fleet during prime time yesterday when theres usually 120-150 does that tell you something?
Why are you still playing this game if it's "garbage"?

The population of my fleet has been steady over the last few weekends (120-150).

In all sincerity, please find a game that you truly enjoy. If you liked GW2 so much, spend time on that forum, rather than in a game that you hate. It's not healthy.

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HammersteinSW
04.29.2012 , 02:19 PM | #80
Next gen must not necessarily mean that you have a crazy new invention - next gen can also mean "doing it right".

WoW was next gen in 2004 since it took all the features from previous mmos and combined them to make the most successful mmo in history.

GW2 now takes all the good stuff from the 2004-2012 mmos and puts it together correctly.

I remember when I played the Swtor beta and the first quests sent me on "kill x of this", "collect x of that" quests. And I thought "Oh..I know this already". In GW2 I also recognize the features from past mmos, but the whole package plays faster, feels less grindy and really shines in every aspect. Not once did it feel grindy or tiresome so far.

It also puts the "massive" back in mmo. Except for my class story I have not done a single quest alone so far.

Back top playing the beta while it lasts....game looks good, I think we might be heading for an early summer release.