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Guild Wars 2 Beta Weekend. SWTOR or GW2, what do you prefer?

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Guild Wars 2 Beta Weekend. SWTOR or GW2, what do you prefer?

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Rosickyownsbale
04.29.2012 , 06:51 PM | #261
Quote: Originally Posted by The-Vortex View Post
I find it a little sad that people like you keep trying to force your taste in games down everyone's throat. If guild wars 2 is "the best game of all time" as you claim it to be why are you still here? Who cares if you like GW2 more than TOR, I sure as hell don't and I'm willing to bet a large sum of money that a lot of other people don't either.

People like different things in an mmo - a lot of people still like the "old style" mmo (trinity, hotkey combat etc) and a lot of people prefer the new style present in GW2. The games are hardly alike - sure they are in the same genre but its like comparing a console to a gaming pc, both are designed for the same purpose but are targeted toward a different type of gamer.
Fair enough. Agree with the second part to some extent. Except even at "what it does" gw2 is the best game ever and swtor is...well....a disaster.

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Chimerako
04.29.2012 , 06:51 PM | #262
Currently GW2 has better PvP but honestly thats about it. If you played the beta there were graphics issues and lag just like when swtor came out. Tons and tons of bugs in GW2 as well. Nothing all that special really and to be honest i have really gotten use to the voice acting in swtor. It felt cheap reading the story...yawn. When playing GW2 the storyline so far really isn't very good at all. It has its ups sides like attacking bases and what not, after playing I can't say I was blown away. lol I played Tera too and between the both of them they made me see how difficult it is to get everything right in a MMO. With 5 years of development, 350 million dollars and 2000 in staff you could prob impress 60% of the people who post in this forum.

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The-Vortex
04.29.2012 , 06:53 PM | #263
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Theres no way in hell that tor is going to be able to compete with gw2 pvp. This game is going to be pure pve after gw2 launch.
You say that as though its a bad thing. I'm pretty sure TOR was marketed as a story driven game and if you came into this expecting anything other than a PvE game with a small PvP element I don't really know what to say. Have fun in GW2 I guess.
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skygon
04.29.2012 , 06:54 PM | #264
Quote: Originally Posted by hargrave View Post
Theres no way in hell that tor is going to be able to compete with gw2 pvp. This game is going to be pure pve after gw2 launch.

How is tor going to be able to compete with 50vs50 and higher open world pvp? They cant even make open world pvp it was just a side area.

GW2 even has REAL warzone bolstering. Tor still cant even get instanced pvp right.

Sure tell me to go play gw2 but it doesnt solve the fact that tors pvp is a joke in comparison and all the lying and free tauntauns and free months cant solve that issue.

Thier going to have to make open world pvp that equals to or if not better then gw2. Thats going to be impossible considering out inept pvp team that does nothing but throw empty promises at you left and right
With the performance issues that they have now in Opvp, it feels more like Ilum, if they cant fix them it will fail. And GW2 doesnt have competitive PvP and looks like it wont have it. And talking about Intanced PvP. swtor win by far in that aspect. Cmon, i was playing some pvp in gw2 and nobady talk, you dont need it, is a dps fest or race where is all about find a target and kill it, there is not tactics or something. i mean even in huttball with a pug or voidstar you need to talk and try to make some tactics or strategy, gw2 so far doesnt have nothing like that. The WvWvW looks fun, but still it have a lot of problems, Even the warhammer online pvp or RvR is superior to what we have in gw2 atm. and im not even talking about all the skill delay problems, and the ¨useless to be a melee issue¨.

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ChazDoit
04.29.2012 , 06:54 PM | #265
Quote: Originally Posted by Rosickyownsbale View Post
16 man instanced pvp isnt real pvp.
Then i could say world pvp isnt real pvp, is just a zergfest (see? I can make statements without backing them up too ) And yes, even in a 3way battle if one faction grossly outnumbers the other two it can still be imbalanced.

Still it sounds better than the world pvp that swtor is offering, or should I say not offering.

Again, Im not greatly impressed with all the features the fanbois keep bringing up, seen them all before, but if there is something that calls my attention is the lack of subscription.

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Jagerinho
04.29.2012 , 06:54 PM | #266
I've played the GW2 BWE.

I must say it was extremely underwhelming and has been over hyped so so much.

I actually renewed my SWTOR sub today and have been enjoyed every minute of being back.

A lot of people in GW2 are having buyers remorse, some people admit it, where as some people are so stubborn in their belief that GW2 will be such a good game (because they invested so much time in research, waiting etc) that they refuse to acknowledge its downfalls.

If anyone wants me to break the games short comings I will be happy to do so.
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Naizgrel
04.29.2012 , 06:58 PM | #267
Lol at OP Commenting on Failwars 2 on Swtor forums, if you like that awful game so much why dont you go and leave our forums in peace?
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maticlandarr
04.29.2012 , 06:58 PM | #268
Quote: Originally Posted by ChazDoit View Post
The sad thing is that they think the best argument to back up their game is saying "swtor sucks" or say "WvWvW!!" and expect us to be impressed
Nah the real sad thing is all the overdeveloped mmo pride flying around in here. Most people here seem to think there have to be lines drawn, battles fought. Doesnt surprise me considering the quality of these forums.

Swtor is a great game. I love the combat. But there was very little care put into the product. Aside from the voiceovers. They shot their load with those, then went to the kitchen to make a sandwich.
Gw2 has its flaws as well. But the beta was more stable, less buggy, and had waaaaaaay faster load times than swtor as it is now. The world actually feels alive as well, unlike the sterile reused asset zones in swtor. That alone makes me want to keep playing.

Most likely i will play swtor for rankes warzones and gw2 for eveeything else.

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Iboga
04.29.2012 , 07:02 PM | #269
I honestly don't know if I'll be able to play SWTOR again after playing GW2...

Gonna try though...
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hargrave
04.29.2012 , 07:04 PM | #270
It is not even close to ilum you must have an old pc lol I never once saw in over 3 hours 1 person ask if anyone lagging or had lag. Sure people will lag but nothing like ilum. If you want to see real instanced pvp its in gw2 where theres REAL bolstering no chainstuns no expertise garbage. Ilum is about the size one of the castles in the zone lol. Ilum wasnt even open world it was just a small area on the side of the planet.

Heres the difference in instanced pvp

Tor wz put to 50 not given 50 gear and weapons
Gw2 instanced pvp your put to cap given cap gear and weapons and all cap lvl skills (now thats real bolstering)

As for warhammer go look at the forums there they have same identical problems thier that we have here. Gabe couldnt fix the same issues there what does that tell you?

I own a public ts3 that i tryed to use to organize warzones with people and you know what i learned hutball in theory is good but live its every man for himself and unless your in a pre made or guild group or organizing wins its the only way it works. Thats just the huttbal nature and all warzone nature. You cant have a leader b/c they wont put a raid assist in the game so its just mad ants and try to type and fight waste of time


Quote: Originally Posted by skygon View Post
With the performance issues that they have now in Opvp, it feels more like Ilum, if they cant fix them it will fail. And GW2 doesnt have competitive PvP and looks like it wont have it. And talking about Intanced PvP. swtor win by far in that aspect. Cmon, i was playing some pvp in gw2 and nobady talk, you dont need it, is a dps fest or race where is all about find a target and kill it, there is not tactics or something. i mean even in huttball with a pug or voidstar you need to talk and try to make some tactics or strategy, gw2 so far doesnt have nothing like that. The WvWvW looks fun, but still it have a lot of problems, Even the warhammer online pvp or RvR is superior to what we have in gw2 atm. and im not even talking about all the skill delay problems, and the ¨useless to be a melee issue¨.
We have an entire team dedicated to adding content and features to player vs. player. We have some of the most experienced PvP developers in the world on this team.James Ohlen Ilum is bieng reworked as it wasnt a fun or exciting experience