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FREE Character Transfers are Coming!

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HeavensAgent
05.01.2012 , 03:50 PM | #941
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1) The community cant force anything, if you have three 12 year old chidren screaming that they all want dynamite and matches for christmas, and you the parent get tired of the screaming and give it to them, its your fault, they didnt FORCE you to do anything. you like the devs should have known better because its your job to.
So you would have told them to do nothing and give up on the game before it even got off the ground?
Quote: Originally Posted by Mallorik View Post
2) They have stated recently that server capacity is now double or more that it was during lauunch, if they could have let twice as many people on a server at launch there would be alot less servers periood and alot less with 30 people on them right now. So no an arguement cant be made, unless you liek arguing agasint common sense.
What they are capable of now is not what they were capable of then.

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Emdix
05.01.2012 , 03:50 PM | #942
Quote: Originally Posted by ShiningKnights View Post
Actually, not true. I have a friend who worked for Bioware as of 6 months ago. According to him BioWare has pretty much free reign to do whatever they want. The VP's pretty much leave that division alone.
I dont belive that at all.Not that part about friend in BW, but that part with they can do everything they want.If true, they should get fired, because obviously, they are not doing good job.

But If BW is in control, why EA is leting them repeat same mistake with Warhammer.That is something to think about, dont u think ?

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Jederix
05.01.2012 , 03:52 PM | #943
Quote: Originally Posted by amantheil View Post
Wut? Bioware has never said they are going to pick the server for you. They've never said they won't either. They haven't said anything other than there will be some free transfers available, followed by paid transfers.

Bioware wrote only three sentences, all of which are pretty straightforward. And from there people have come up with some pretty wild assumptions how what is going to happen.
You misread him. Clearly "not allowing everyone to transfer for free to any server they want to" is telling him where to transfer.

Because we need the entire playerbase crammed onto The Fatman.
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JeramieCrowe
05.01.2012 , 03:53 PM | #944
Quote: Originally Posted by Emdix View Post
I dont belive that at all.Not that part about friend in BW, but that part with they can do everything they want.If true, they should get fired, because obviously, they are not doing good job.

But If BW is in control, why EA is leting them repeat same mistake with Warhammer.That is something to think about, dont u think ?
Put this in bold letters: THIS IS NOTHING NEW, HAPPENS IN EVERY SINGLE FREAKING MMO EVER RELEASED, SO QUIT ACTING LIKE IT IS.
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Ensquire
05.01.2012 , 03:53 PM | #945
Quote: Originally Posted by Emdix View Post
I dont belive that at all.Not that part about friend in BW, but that part with they can do everything they want.If true, they should get fired, because obviously, they are not doing good job.

But If BW is in control, why EA is leting them repeat same mistake with Warhammer.That is something to think about, dont u think ?
your text needs to be settled down, pick a color, fyi... I don't need you to enlarge it either, i can read your writing just fine...

Can see why you pick different colors though, your grammar is atrocious... You probably want to distract from that
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TheRedNalroni
05.01.2012 , 03:55 PM | #946
Free Server transfers were announced in the Q&A . James Ohlen has stated "No, we’re not going to. Merging servers is not something we are looking at."

If server transfers mirror every other MMO Ive experienced. Free Server transfers are being offererd 'From High population servers' to 'Low Population servers'
ALL this is doing is offering transfers to people to move 'back' to the low population server they left because it was LOW. And for these people to move to a LOW server your asking them to gamble that A LOT of other people take that risk to populate the server they are moving to.

There is no Incentive to move to one of the 23 'English' European servers. There is only one server that is FULL with a que time. Is Bioware claiming that this one server has enough players willing to leave to populate 23 other servers? And thats not counting the 'Standard Population servers? Is it not the same players that abandoned other servers due to low population to move to this one server, and moving back is just restoring the server to the state it was in prior to them leaving because they decided there wasnt enough?

Server Transfers this way only benefeit from Over population.
But considering in the EU English bracket, you have 1 server over populated (ie peak time has a wating time) while 23 of them are unable to support 'Operation' based content.

The State of Scepter of Ragnos - EU (And not the least populated of the 16 pvp servers that are "light")
Is:
0 Republic in PVP.
Peak time - 17 Republic Players Server Wide on a 'who' 7 of which in imperial fleet, 2 of those level 50, the rest likely alts just seeing the story line (Mine being one of them as an Imperial player)
Ive not pvped since prior to 1.2 out of frustration (when the 2 republic guilds departed to reroll empire on Tomb of Freedon Nadd) Even in the first month of Swtor Meeting republic players in a Warzone were slim.
Now In PVP queing up in pvp is just filled with under geared alts or new players vs the one or two 'career' pvp teams resulting in one sided roll overs of frustration. With the implementation of 1.2 there has been no significant change to the situation.

Fact is when transfers come out they will MAKE money because NO ONE in their right mind will leave to an under populated server.
People will be PAYING to move to a more populated server (With likely multiple characters costing a fair whack of cash).

There are 16 Light Servers, I expect them to be EMPTY from server transfers or cancellations.

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JeramieCrowe
05.01.2012 , 03:57 PM | #947
Quote: Originally Posted by TheRedNalroni View Post
Free Server transfers were announced in the Q&A . James Ohlen has stated "No, we’re not going to. Merging servers is not something we are looking at."

If server transfers mirror every other MMO Ive experienced. Free Server transfers are being offererd 'From High population servers' to 'Low Population servers'
Just so you know, transferring people off of a LIGHT server and shutting it down is NOT A MERGE. So, when JO says they not going to merge servers, he is NOT talking about that. He's talking about actual server merges which are buggy, convoluted, and an unnecessarily complex process of combining the software, economy, loot tables, etc. of two servers, when all they have to do is move people and shut down low-pops.
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Mallorik
05.01.2012 , 03:59 PM | #948
Quote: Originally Posted by HeavensAgent View Post
So you would have told them to do nothing and give up on the game before it even got off the ground?
What they are capable of now is not what they were capable of then.
1) Maybe i would have released less servers, i dont know im not being paid to run a succesful mmo, and unlike many people on their team i havent run and launched other mmos where the exact same thing happened.

2) Exactly, because the game was released early/or they didnt focus enough on server capacity to be ready for launch.

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Ensquire
05.01.2012 , 04:00 PM | #949
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe View Post
Just so you know, transferring people off of a LIGHT server and shutting it down is NOT A MERGE. So, when JO says they not going to merge servers, he is NOT talking about that. He's talking about actual server merges which are buggy, convoluted, and an unnecessarily complex process of combining the software, economy, loot tables, etc. of two servers, when all they have to do is move people and shut down low-pops.
Agreed, I also think you should have to pay if you want to move your character around freely, putting a price tag on server transfers will deter some players from doing it and prevent other players from doing it excessively, which in the long term should stabilize the server populations.
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TheRedNalroni
05.01.2012 , 04:01 PM | #950
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe View Post
Just so you know, transferring people off of a LIGHT server and shutting it down is NOT A MERGE. So, when JO says they not going to merge servers, he is NOT talking about that. He's talking about actual server merges which are buggy, convoluted, and an unnecessarily complex process of combining the software, economy, loot tables, etc. of two servers, when all they have to do is move people and shut down low-pops.
But they cant force 100% of people to depart a server so they can shut it down. If they do so, that is, in effect a server Merge. Even if its one server merging into numerous others.
They, as far as I know have not stated the specifics of which servers are entitled to a free server transfer. Im basing speculation off Current practices in other MMO's.