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JeramieCrowe
05.01.2012 , 10:33 AM | #851
Quote: Originally Posted by Sporin View Post
How did they move the Aus players then? If they can do it for one lot, they can do it for the rest? Are we back to being 2nd or 3rd class again?
They did it all manually, by hand, one player at a time. It would take longer for them to get to you this way, for the rest of the population, than simply waiting a month for the automated software.
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Sporin
05.01.2012 , 10:36 AM | #852
They could hire the 1,000 people EA dumped because of BF3/SWTOR... think of it as compensation.
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JeramieCrowe
05.01.2012 , 10:38 AM | #853
Quote: Originally Posted by Sporin View Post
They could hire the 1,000 people EA dumped because of BF3/SWTOR... think of it as compensation.
Please don't spread falsities. Any layoffs were neither because of BW, nor did it affect BW at all. Blizzard just laid off 600, but did not affect the WoW team. It would be the same as me blaming WoW for the layoffs.
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Timesjoke
05.01.2012 , 10:43 AM | #854
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe View Post
Hate to say this, but it sounds like you might be better off on an EU server.
Quote: Originally Posted by HeavensAgent View Post
Not true, actually. Because you have a non-standard play time, you might consider moving to a server with a different time zone designation, one that has peak hours that correspond more often with your availability.
First of all every other MMO I have played during the day has other people actually playing it, I have zero issue with finding a group on WoW during the day, ran 10 man DS yesterday with a pure pug group and downed 6/8 in a little over 1.5 hours. We died a few times but overall it was a good time.

Second, how was I supposed to know the server I selected would be dead a couple months later and if I do try to change servers, how do I make sure the one I am moving to has people that play during the day? There are no tools available to let me know where I can move to so the ability to change servers does not address the needs people have to find other people to play with at all.



Quote: Originally Posted by HeavensAgent View Post
Something of this nature is generally a poor reason to institute cross-server lfg functionality.
This is the exact reason to institute cross-server LRG tools, in fact it is the only reason to create such a tool.

This is supposed to be an MMO, but there is not enough people on the servers to allow us to group up so creating the tool will help us experience the game by finding other people who also want to raid but can't find enough players on their servers.

This is not an MMO if the only time to actually get a group together is during a narrow 2 to 4 hour period of time during the evening.
No matter how hard you try, you can't beat time.

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Sporin
05.01.2012 , 10:49 AM | #855
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe View Post
Please don't spread falsities. Any layoffs were neither because of BW, nor did it affect BW at all. Blizzard just laid off 600, but did not affect the WoW team. It would be the same as me blaming WoW for the layoffs.
What part is false? Didn't the lay off x-amount? Isn't (in both cases) that the parent company? Wouldn't both parent companies be effected by the performance of the various parts of that company? If you believe there is no knock-on effect then thats grand. I know what I believe. thank you.
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JeramieCrowe
05.01.2012 , 10:49 AM | #856
Quote: Originally Posted by Timesjoke View Post
First of all every other MMO I have played during the day has other people actually playing it, I have zero issue with finding a group on WoW during the day, ran 10 man DS yesterday with a pure pug group and downed 6/8 in a little over 1.5 hours. We died a few times but overall it was a good time.
Well, once TOR launches in China, too, you'll have your daytime pop like WoW.

Quote: Originally Posted by Timesjoke View Post
Second, how was I supposed to know the server I selected would be dead a couple months later and if I do try to change servers, how do I make sure the one I am moving to has people that play during the day? There are no tools available to let me know where I can move to so the ability to change servers does not address the needs people have to find other people to play with at all.
Well, you just mentioned you've played other MMOs, so if you rolled on a server without a thought to the typical "launch surge/dropoff" that happens in every single MMO ever launched, that's no one's fault but your own. Transfers are coming, and within the typical 4 to 6 month timeframe.

Even your beloved WoW had low-pop servers 3 months after launch just like this.

Quote: Originally Posted by Timesjoke View Post
This is the exact reason to institute cross-server LRG tools, in fact it is the only reason to create such a tool.

This is supposed to be an MMO, but there is not enough people on the servers to allow us to group up so creating the tool will help us experience the game by finding other people who also want to raid but can't find enough players on their servers.

This is not an MMO if the only time to actually get a group together is during a narrow 2 to 4 hour period of time during the evening.
The LFG tool coming in 1.3 will be here AFTER server transfers and culled low-pop servers. Thus, once 1.3 gets here, X-Server will be completely unnecessary. PvP queues will be X-Server, however, as it doesn't harm the server-specific loot table/economy that's currently in place.
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JeramieCrowe
05.01.2012 , 10:51 AM | #857
Quote: Originally Posted by Sporin View Post
What part is false? Didn't the lay off x-amount? Isn't (in both cases) that the parent company? Wouldn't both parent companies be effected by the performance of the various parts of that company? If you believe there is no knock-on effect then thats grand. I know what I believe. thank you.
Pretty sure there are plenty of failures with EAs own games that contributed to that. Since no one in BW was laid off, I'd say the proof is in the pudding.

Besides, what's even more to blame for layoffs than any game's failure is the overall economy itself. There have been LOTS of layoffs worldwide, and had little to do with the success or failure of the company's product.
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Quilland
05.01.2012 , 10:57 AM | #858
I mentioned the server transfers in a OPS group I was in on Krayiss Obelisk (one of the ghostliest ghost town severs).

The immediate response to 'some time in early summer' was "Did they say what year?"

It really is unconscionable that Bioware didn't realize they would have a falloff in subscriptions after the first month or so. Every other MMO in the past 5 years has had that problem. It was the height of arrogance or unbelievable stupidity to think they would not have the same problem. The term 'early summer' is distressingly vague and Bioware's track record has not been good so far on getting things right.

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Sorrasht
05.01.2012 , 11:01 AM | #859
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe View Post
They did it all manually, by hand, one player at a time. It would take longer for them to get to you this way, for the rest of the population, than simply waiting a month for the automated software.
Sure they did bro, sure they did. I imagine they even typed each line, going item by item. Amazing how the same people are here everyday defending windmills (not unlike Don Quixote) while different people show up everyday smacking reality right in their faces. Yet they look like government official stating "everything is ok, move along" while millions of people quit their RL game. AKA unemployment. These people prolly tell people to just emigrate. Easy.

But no... we're all ignorant muppets and they lack "technology" to implement mergers/transfers. What is that? Are they buying new racks, routers and switches? Their supplier takes 2 months to deliver? Or they just can't figure out which cable goes where?

Maybe i should send them my CV, along with some coding 101 so can they script stuff instead of manually transfering table lines for each player... if you trully believe they're that cluless (which i personally don't).

This gets more surreal each day.

Gonna go back to my 20m queues on my uber full Chuundar@EU server. Maybe today i'll find 4 people for a HM. One can only hope, reroll, or emigrate to another game, right?

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Jederix
05.01.2012 , 11:08 AM | #860
I haven't read this thread yet, but I will. I'm guessing we still have the same 20 or so people claiming that the only thing that is going to save the game are mergers.

You will not get mergers, no matter how much you cry for them. Not until the playerbase has dipped below profitable levels and the game is in its last moments. That time is not now.
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