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Andryah
04.30.2012 , 02:59 PM | #691
Quote: Originally Posted by Jonoku View Post
Back on topic, if they have free char transfers so people in light servers can move into standard populated ones then that'll be great, help the population but wont reduce the lag on llum.
Bioware admitted that the basic design of Ilum was primary cause of the problems. Hence they basically retired it (took away incentive to play there) until they can do a redesign.

As for open world PvP in general, this is not a PvP centric game. So you will never be happy here, based on what you have said so far. You need to find an MMO that is more cetered on PvP.
When you find yourself surrounded by hostile Clowns... always go for the "Juggler" first.

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Berezo
04.30.2012 , 02:59 PM | #692
Quote: Originally Posted by Corinthar View Post
Why would you not re-roll, for the sake of the guild and the community you have built? What you have done with your time in-game so far has been enjoyable, so why not start over? Nothing in these games amounts to anything when you eventually quit the game, so ignore your current gear, credits, crafting skill levels and re-roll now, before more of your guild quit.

Makes perfect sense to me. Can anyone explain why this isn't a logical solution? Gaming is fun, you'll have fun when you re-roll as you did when you started the game the first time. Just ignore the things in your bank, they are ultimately worthless anyway...
Most people find it rather insulting and saddening to have to start all over again. All those credits earned from legacy unlock, all the raid achievements, and all the time min/maxing gear. Nobody wants to grind 80 levels of valor again, nobody wants to lose progress made...months worth of progress. I did re-roll on fatman because i like the game, most will not because they lose their characters. I get that.
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Berezo
04.30.2012 , 03:02 PM | #693
Quote: Originally Posted by Leggomy View Post
Yep and in EVERY post its always some hardcore raiding guild or hardcore pvp guild quitting. This isnt a hardcore game.
you do not need to be hardcore to be upset at no community on what you thought was your home server. Seeing 30 people on fleet at peak is enough to make put a fist through the wall. No matter if you raid, rp, craft, or whatever....a dead server brings no sense of enjoyment to any gamers experience.
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rakuenCallisto
04.30.2012 , 03:02 PM | #694
Quote: Originally Posted by Leggomy View Post
Yep and in EVERY post its always some hardcore raiding guild or hardcore pvp guild quitting. This isnt a hardcore game.
I'm done discussing anything with you. You make absolutely no sense. I'm serious. You just described probably 80% of the guilds in this game. End game content is either raiding, PvP or flashpoints/HM and even the FP/HM people are included with raiding.

I don't even know why you brought this up as a defense to your arguement..
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Corinthar
04.30.2012 , 03:02 PM | #695
Quote: Originally Posted by rakuenCallisto View Post
Honestly, I'm really gettin sick of the amount of groveling these fanbois are doing.

I get it. I love (d) the game too. If I was watching a game I completely WANTED to succeed (which I still do) start going down the drain, I'd probably be right there beside you.

But for you guys to be so blind as to whats going on, in the entirety of the community, on AND off the forums, is really ignorant.

Listen - I wanted this game to succeed. I had so much high hopes, especially with my love for all things Star Wars.

The truth of the matter is, sometimes you just gotta face facts and realize being optimistic can only carry you so far.

It really is mind-boggling that none of these people have noticed a dip in population, drop in morale or a huge change in the community - there really is no convincing them at this point.
List then, in bullet point format if you will, WHY you think the game is 'going down the drain'. I'd be willing to bet my favourite blaster that most of your list are things you 'expect' to have in a MMO, but not things which BioWare DEFINITIVELY SAID would be in.

People simply do not have the staying power, the patience or the maturity to simply wait and see how things turn out than they used to in the first days of World of Warcraft and EverQuest. We've become impatient, selfish and ignorant of others. It sickens me.
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Leggomy
04.30.2012 , 03:04 PM | #696
Quote: Originally Posted by rakuenCallisto View Post
I'm done discussing anything with you. You make absolutely no sense. I'm serious. You just described probably 80% of the guilds in this game. End game content is either raiding, PvP or flashpoints/HM and even the FP/HM people are included with raiding.

I don't even know why you brought this up as a defense to your arguement..
Again you have a skewed perception. To you most guilds are end game raiding guilds because thats all you do. Most people in this game are not even to level 50 yet much less doing hard mode raids etc. Some people enjoy just playing the regular game and not rushing to end game then complaining noone is there to play with. You have this view everyone is focused on end game only. Thats not the case at all.

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TUXs
04.30.2012 , 03:04 PM | #697
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
Bioware admitted that the basic design of Ilum was primary cause of the problems. Hence they basically retired it (took away incentive to play there) until they can do a redesign.

As for open world PvP in general, this is not a PvP centric game. So you will never be happy here, based on what you have said so far. You need to find an MMO that is more cetered on PvP.
Why do you say that? This game WAS sold as having great PvP and one of the industries best PvP teams. I think you're greatly mistaken that the game wasn't designed with PvP in mind. Hell, they even have PvP servers.

Bioware made the MISTAKE of removing Ilum incentive BEFORE they replaced it with anything. As crappy as it was, it beat what we have now...NOTHING!
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Andryah
04.30.2012 , 03:05 PM | #698
Quote: Originally Posted by rakuenCallisto View Post
Honestly, I'm really gettin sick of the amount of groveling these fanbois are doing.

I get it. I love (d) the game too. If I was watching a game I completely WANTED to succeed (which I still do) start going down the drain, I'd probably be right there beside you.

But for you guys to be so blind as to whats going on, in the entirety of the community, on AND off the forums, is really ignorant.

Listen - I wanted this game to succeed. I had so much high hopes, especially with my love for all things Star Wars.

The truth of the matter is, sometimes you just gotta face facts and realize being optimistic can only carry you so far.

It really is mind-boggling that none of these people have noticed a dip in population, drop in morale or a huge change in the community - there really is no convincing them at this point.
No MMO will please everyone. Ever.

Common sense suggest that people will play a game, and if they like it they continue to play. If they don't like it, they will go find something they like to play. It's a game, not real life.

Your constant negative, sometimes passive aggressive posts, are not productive. And if you feel you are entitled to make them and others are not entitled to disagree with you, you are mistaken. Please stop impressing your personal disappointments on others and expect no disagreement. Many people enjoy the game, even while acknowledging it has defects and needs improvements.
When you find yourself surrounded by hostile Clowns... always go for the "Juggler" first.

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FlinzPrime
04.30.2012 , 03:18 PM | #699
Some of the lowest servers should have been closed instantly. I doubt there is going to be problems with overpopulated servers and if there was what prevent then opening new ones.

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HeavensAgent
04.30.2012 , 03:23 PM | #700
Quote: Originally Posted by Falcyndark View Post
Here is a thought.... How about they start with just a realm flashpoint search. Then move towards a cross server flashpoint search.
This is the part that proved to be an issue. LFG wasn't an issue when it was limited to a single server. Once it was made cross-server, though, it contributed to a destabilization of the individual server communities and an economic rebalancing across the game. The latter was a real issue for servers that had boasted a server economy above the eventual mean, pulling them down to the point that players were incapable of generating the in-game funds needed to maintain basic game play (potions, equipment repairs, etc). The economy eventually self-corrected in these instance, but not before many left the game. A few of these servers were quietly merged with more populous guilds as a result.