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FREE Character Transfers are Coming!

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Szadek
04.28.2012 , 04:59 AM | #161
"Early summer" I Just lol....you need them next week not "Early summer"....

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SonicDragon
04.28.2012 , 05:06 AM | #162
This is the only thing about 12 poeple (myself included) talk about on Trayus Academy.

Honestly, thats how active a server we have, there is no incentive at all to stay there but i'm not abandoning my only 50 which I put so much time and effort into.

We as a collective need it now!
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thomasgallant
04.28.2012 , 05:12 AM | #163
Quote: Originally Posted by SonicDragon View Post
This is the only thing about 12 poeple (myself included) talk about on Trayus Academy.

Honestly, thats how active a server we have, there is no incentive at all to stay there but i'm not abandoning my only 50 which I put so much time and effort into.

We as a collective need it now!
sadly it will be a couple of months wait..

hopefully they can push it up but i wouldnt bank on it by any means.

Bioware has done some pretty good pr work as of late. trying to address our issues. I think they have done a complete 180 turn around from their first months in the mmo world. So who knows. maybe transfers will come sooner..
"Many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view." Obi-Wan Kenobi

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Woetoo
04.28.2012 , 05:15 AM | #164
I'm on a reasonably populated EU server, so I doubt I'll be making use of the transfer scheme. But I know server population will have a huge effect on players willingness to play long term - and that matters a lot to me. I want the game to succeed and anything that gets in the way is something I'm going to take an interest in.

I should be happy transfers are coming. But honestly I'm not.

Reading the quote...
Quote:
Arymono: When will character transfers be available for everybody?

Dallas Dickinson (Senior Producer, Live Services): We will be rolling out our Character Transfer Service in early summer. First we’ll have some targeted free transfers from/to specific servers, but that will be followed with a broader system where you can either take advantage of free promotional transfers to specific servers or paid transfers to the server of your choice. We know everyone has more questions about character transfer, and we’ll reveal more details closer to the launch date.
Okay. So taking it apart.
  • We can expect Server tranfers towards the end of June, early July. (*cough* provisionally) Edit: not may/june as I originally typed
  • They're opening FREE transfers FROM servers they choose TO servers they choose. On a limited basis.
  • Not on the list? Don't like Bioware's choice of where you can move to? Tough! Get your wallet out!

And it's those two final points that really take the shine off this revelation.

Right or wrong, Bioware is directly responsible for server populations.

They made a choice during the pre-launch and launch of how distribute people across servers. At the time, they deliberately lowered server population caps to ensure servers didn't get overwhelmed. Then raised them slowly over time to reduce the artificial queues the lower caps generated. It had the desired effect and people chose other servers and in so doing, spread the community out across a great number of servers. I'm reasonably sure they also had in mind what happens when a lot of people play their initial 30 days and then stopped player. Overall, I think they made some poor decisions that were the best decisions apparent at the time without hindsight. They announced recently that it has become clear now that server populations could double and still be okay.

Whilst people made the choices, Bioware's policies and approach gave them no other choice. So in effect, Bioware generated the problem, however indirectly, and think charging people to sort it out is just great.

But... but... "FREE!!!".

LIMITED free. Whilst there's still no details exactly, we can probably expect single server to single server transfers recommendations, or maybe two or three servers to single server. What we won't get it customer choice. Some friends of mine intended to play on our server, but when the queues in the initial days were so high, they did what lots of people did and picked another server. They currently regret that choice and are rerolling low level characters on our server ahead of a character transfer announcement. The chances that Bioware's choice of transfers are going to include their server to our server? Not impossible, but unlikely. So it appears they'll have to pay to be on the server of their choice.

Profiting from a mistake (however well intentioned) is just cynical.

Personally I would like server transfers to be gated by time OR money. Prepared to wait? Sure you can have a free transfer to anywhere. Not prepared to wait? Get your wallet out.

I'd still prefer to see a series of whole server mergers to grossly sort things out, followed by a limited period of free any server to any server transfers for those players with specific needs. If you absolutely must bring in paid server transfer - let it be after the mistakes of the past are corrected to player satisfaction.
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I actually laughed out loud.

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thomasgallant
04.28.2012 , 05:22 AM | #165
Quote: Originally Posted by Woetoo View Post
I'm on a reasonably populated EU server, so I doubt I'll be making use of the transfer scheme. But I know server population will have a huge effect on players willingness to play long term - and that matters a lot to me. I want the game to succeed and anything that gets in the way is something I'm going to take an interest in.

I should be happy transfers are coming. But honestly I'm not.

Reading the quote...


Okay. So taking it apart.
  • We can expect Server tranfers towards the end of May, early June. (*cough* provisionally)
  • They opening FREE transfers FROM servers they choose TO servers they choose. On a limited basis.
  • Not on the list? Don't like Bioware's choice of where you can move to? Tough! Get your wallet out!

And it's those two final points that really take the shine off this revelation.

Right or wrong, Bioware is directly responsible for server populations.

They made a choice during the pre-launch and launch of how distribute people across servers. At the time, they deliberately lowered server population caps to ensure servers didn't get overwhelmed. Then raised them slowly over time to reduce the artificial queues the lower caps generated. It had the desired effect and people chose other servers and in so doing, spread the community out across a great number of servers. I'm reasonably sure they also had in mind what happens when a lot of people play their initial 30 days and then stopped player. Overall, I think they made some poor decisions that were the best decisions apparent at the time without hindsight. They announced recently that it has become clear now that server populations could double and still be okay.

Whilst people made the choices, Bioware's policies and approach gave them no other choice. So in effect, Bioware generated the problem, however indirectly, and think charging people to sort it out is just great.

But... but... "FREE!!!".

LIMITED free. Whilst there's still no details exactly, we can probably expect single server to single server transfers recommendations, or maybe two or three servers to single server. What we won't get it customer choice. Some friends of mine intended to play on our server, but when the queues in the initial days were so high, they did what lots of people did and picked another server. They currently regret that choice and are rerolling low level characters on our server ahead of a character transfer announcement. The chances that Bioware's choice of transfers are going to include their server to our server? Not impossible, but unlikely. So it appears they'll have to pay to be on the server of their choice.

Profiting from a mistake (however well intentioned) is just cynical.

Personally I would like server transfers to be gated by time OR money. Prepared to wait? Sure you can have a free transfer to anywhere. Not prepared to wait? Get your wallet out.

I'd still prefer to see a series of whole server mergers to grossly sort things out, followed by a limited period of free any server to any server transfers for those players with specific needs. If you absolutely must bring in paid server transfer - let it be after the mistakes of the past are corrected to player satisfaction.
personally i think if you want a server transfer it should be all of your characters.. your entire legacy from one server to another.. why should you get the chance to split it up.. if you wanted characters on multiple servers you could have made characters on multiple servers. it should be a one time straight shot legacy move from one server to another..and ya they should give you a limited list of servers so you can have some choice but so we dont get a horrible mess of people piling only one or two servers in credibly full and all of the others become ghost towns.
"Many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view." Obi-Wan Kenobi

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Nywac
04.28.2012 , 05:40 AM | #166
Biofail lol transfers coming in summer but u cant transfer to whatever server u like unless your willing to pay??? lol forget Swtor lol another dissapoining MMO i wonder how long until this joins STO and goes FTP and starts the micro transactions.

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Emdix
04.28.2012 , 05:42 AM | #167
BioWare, what do u want me to do till it comes out? You want me slack on fleet and keep paying You for no fun? Im sorry, but I see no point .

You just fail, that is what You do, you fail all the time.

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Verill
04.28.2012 , 05:46 AM | #168
Quote: Originally Posted by ViperI View Post
"Early Summer?" Sorry, too little too late.
Very late.

There is nothing to do on my server.

20 people on peak hours on a good day.

Denial of gaming experience.
Verill - Sentinel - Coral - TOFN

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Vicen
04.28.2012 , 05:55 AM | #169
SWEEEET! Now I don't have to roll on "The Fatman" to actually do a heroic or what not!
Swooping...is...bad...

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Blackardin
04.28.2012 , 06:02 AM | #170
Quote: Originally Posted by Pvpingwithnoobs View Post
Lol character transfers after 6 months of the most expensive mmo made to date.

Roflmao, yup the game is fine, subs are fine we are doing very well.

I told you so to all those hardened BW supporters, keep fighting the good fight!
This thread should serve as a life's lesson to people....that there are those that cannot be satisfied no matter what you do for them. We have exactly what everyone has desired being brought to us in the fastest time ever recorded in MMO history. The biggest problem with this game will then be solved, but you have people that will rage on about it being "too late", "done on the wrong day", "brought the servers down to do it when I was playing", and every other whiny complaint known to man.

"Here, Mr. Jones. You've just won a million dollars, tax free".

Oh, um, thanks, but could you have picked a better case to bring it in? I hate black suite-cases"
May the Schwartz be with you....