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To the biased Sents/Maras defending their OP class

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To the biased Sents/Maras defending their OP class

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EugeneYap
04.27.2012 , 11:59 AM | #271
Quote: Originally Posted by mmogamer View Post
without defensives marauders will be the worst dps class in the game by far which is clearly what most baddies want.
^this^
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EugeneYap
04.27.2012 , 12:00 PM | #272
Mara is lack of range root, knock-back, AOE stun and tons of other stun skills whereby every other class has them.
Or some lame rotation that takes away 80% health within 5 secs

Now mara can only DPS and mara is having a hard time doing that,
If DPS gets nerfs, what else mara can do...... I know! Mara can just be a target practice or be a running training dummy in pvp matches. In PVE mara are just stand there to watch the whole raid be captain hindsight and do nothing.
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Xaearth
04.27.2012 , 12:02 PM | #273
Quote: Originally Posted by lijahrobinson View Post
I used to have trouble with Marauders...then i learned to play. And i play a Pyrotech Mercenary or a Juggernaut. I Don't have a problem with their abilties. 4 sec of 99% immunity isn't that huge of a deal; just save your stun/knockback/root/slow effect and wait it out. I think people dislike thinking while they play the game.
These are the same people that think Operative healer Surgical Probe spam at <30% health is god-mode.
Using your abilities to counter those of your enemy takes too much thought.
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Scoobings
04.27.2012 , 12:04 PM | #274
Quote: Originally Posted by Xaearth View Post
These are the same people that think Operative healer Surgical Probe spam at <30% health is god-mode.
Using your abilities to counter those of your enemy takes too much thought.
You'd be wrong.
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Darianth
04.27.2012 , 12:16 PM | #275
This entire thread really cracks me up. I mean all this qq about sents and marauders and the majority is flat out wrong. But I think it's funny that people don't complain more about operatives or snipers wither their 2 ccs and knock back and snare.

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EugeneYap
04.27.2012 , 12:19 PM | #276
Quote: Originally Posted by Darianth View Post
This entire thread really cracks me up. I mean all this qq about sents and marauders and the majority is flat out wrong. But I think it's funny that people don't complain more about operatives or snipers wither their 2 ccs and knock back and snare.
Agree I'm not surprise if baddies Smuggler or agent are the ones QQ and complaining about sents and marauders.
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flem
04.27.2012 , 12:20 PM | #277
You're way off base if you think that everyone refuting the dual-saber nerf myths actually plays one.
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IKILLforFREE
04.27.2012 , 12:24 PM | #278
Quote: Originally Posted by Madnutter View Post
This one is aimed at all the short-sighted Marauders/Sents that are fearful of a nerf, as that would mean they'd need to re-roll again (maybe to a PT as they seem to be doing quite well)

I've always said marauder/sent damage is fine, i want no changes to that, they are meant to dish out some hurt.....
What they do need is to lose the Undying rage/Guarded by the force as it is far, far too OP.

This is where all the biased Sents/Maras seem to completely miss the point, and they may say that "oh but thats been in the game since the start"......To this i say, yes it has, and it never should have been in the first place, it has no business being on any class, let alone a DPS one, but aside from that, the recent changes to expertise drastically lowering the TTK make this ability even more out of control.
5 seconds of complete damage immunity is stupid, especially given the amount of damage being thrown out now. You say the ability hasnt been changed, and maybe it hasnt theoretically, but its effectiveness has certainly increased with recent changes.
I remember the QQ for the immediate nerf of operaitve/scoundrels b/c our HS/jarring strike put people on their arses for 3 seconds for some ground and pound. BW what's up!
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Xaearth
04.27.2012 , 12:28 PM | #279
Quote: Originally Posted by Scoobings View Post
You'd be wrong.
Sorry, but I stopped arguing with you because it seemed to me you were serious in your last reply:

Quote: Originally Posted by Scoobings View Post
You don't get stuns? Isn't that what the counter is? Whenever someone mentions something about Mara's the knee-jerk response seems to be "Just stun him lawls l2p" as if there is no Stun immunity, stun breakers, or every class in the game is effected just as negatively by stuns.
If you were serious, my point still stands, as you are the same flavor of bad that refuses to know your enemy.

If you weren't serious... Well it really isn't the fault of the class that you and/or the bads on your team can't L2Resolve.
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The good is oft interred with their bones;
So let it be with BioWare."
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Scoobings
04.27.2012 , 12:34 PM | #280
Quote: Originally Posted by Xaearth View Post
Sorry, but I stopped arguing with you because it seemed to me you were serious in your last reply:



If you were serious, my point still stands, as you are the same flavor of bad that refuses to know your enemy.

If you weren't serious... Well it really isn't the fault of the class that you and/or the bads on your team can't L2Resolve.
I feel like I have a pretty solid grasp on maurader, but I'm always willing to learn. What makes my statement so wrong? Is it that your stun is channeled, so that's why you don't feel like you have access to the same counter?

Or are we talking about a different move and you were looking for stealth scan to cancel the vanish? Or maybe using elemental and force on bladeward?

My only beef is with the low cooldown on GBF, and I don't really understand what counters you might be refering to outside of stun for GBF, which mauraders also have access to.
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