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Has this game turned you "off" to MMOs in general?

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Has this game turned you "off" to MMOs in general?

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marseluswallace
04.26.2012 , 09:39 AM | #51
Quote: Originally Posted by Kentontudor View Post
I think 95% of the people here played World of Warcraft and had a great time with the game at some point. You get tired of a game and angry with the way the changes/expansions are installed which is understandable...

This game had so many Star Wars fans licking their chops and thinking that this would be the next great thing, because it's STAR WARS... and I had sworn allegiance to this game no matter if I hated it even before I played... but I hit Battlemaster about 2 months ago and stopped playing shortly after. Man I wanted this game to work.

I find myself still coming back to these forums because I care about the game and I invested so much to the forums leading up to the game.

I think we wanted this game to save us from the MMO genre that we knew as "WoW," but I think it turned me off to the whole genre as a whole and I have now lost faith.

I do however hope that this game succeeds (but I don't see that happening) and I hope people continue to casually have fun with it.

And seriously, you can have my stuff. First person to send me a message gets my stuff.

Good luck with the game!

Cheers!
No, this game hasn't turned me off to other MMOs. Other MMOs have turned me off to Other MMOs.
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-Sev
04.26.2012 , 09:41 AM | #52
Quote: Originally Posted by marseluswallace View Post
no, this game hasn't turned me off to other mmos. Other mmos have turned me off to other mmos.
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Galbatorrix
04.26.2012 , 09:41 AM | #53
Quote: Originally Posted by hairlessOrphan View Post
TOR: spacebar spam through conversations, tbh. We both know most players do this. I actually made the hilarious mistake of listening to some of these quest dialogues on my first character. So much faster to read the subtitles.

I don't play text-based MMO's (or, as we call them, MUDs) anymore because they have no spacial representation for combat. Now that's a feature that matters. Right?

No, we both don't know that most players do this. Especially their first play throughs. TBH, I wouldn't even get the appeal of this game if I was hammering the spacebar every time I clicked for a conversation. Maybe you're playing the wrong MMO?


Also, the combat in these type games is no different than the text based ones. Both types are on roll systems and the combat in the text based games have you a full description of what was going on. The only difference is that you can see the animations in modern MMOs, making them feel more cinematic. Which is the same thing the VOs do for the games story and quests. It gives depth to what you're doing.

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Cerion
04.26.2012 , 09:45 AM | #54
Quote: Originally Posted by RocNessMonster View Post
They don't understand that our games we prefer to play don't exist in that form anymore. The majority of MMO product have all conformed to the WOW model in order to get a bigger slice of the pie.

AO Classic for life.
They absolutely DO exist. You just don't want to play them, and can't admit it. Play AC1. It hasn't changed sustantially. DAoC. Same.

EQ1. I can log on right now to my 45lvl Paladin and go grind undead in Katta Castellum. I could log in and retrieve my lvl 10 Warrior from Kael Drakkar, run back to East Commonlands and whack on Orcs till my fingers bled. You can still do this! Why don't you?
Good will always triumph because Evil is lazy.

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Davfor
04.26.2012 , 09:46 AM | #55
For some, choosing the "favored" faction/side and powerleveling through a game as fast as possible then blaming the game and company for a lacking MMO, is the "in thing." People seem to not try the hardroad or slowing down. Right now, the Empire side is heavily favored and easy to PvP and level. I guess its both the company (for money) and player (more fun with no challenge.) Ok, that was my rant as the real problem in MMO's today.

One problem I have for MMO's, personally, is the fantasy genre is very overused and played. SWTOR is better with it being more a space/fantasy MMO with Jedi/Sith being the Paladins and Deathknights, Troopers/BH warriors, etc. Still, I believe people want more scifi and less "glowy magic fingers."

I am looking forward to more cool things in SWTOR. If BW would do as someone stated above, look for the real target players, not try to appeal to everyone. That kills games for a short, big, profit.

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Galbatorrix
04.26.2012 , 09:49 AM | #56
Quote: Originally Posted by Cerion View Post
They absolutely DO exist. You just don't want to play them, and can't admit it. Play AC1. It hasn't changed sustantially. DAoC. Same.

EQ1. I can log on right now to my 45lvl Paladin and go grind undead in Katta Castellum. I could log in and retrieve my lvl 10 Warrior from Kael Drakkar, run back to East Commonlands and whack on Orcs till my fingers bled. You can still do this! Why don't you?

Because after playing games like TOR, games like EQ1 make me want to pull my hair out. I recently downloaded EQ1 and my level 35 Warrior and 38 Druid were still there... 8 years after I unsubbed. I attacked one undead MOB standing around these ruins and like 4 more joined the fight. I got down to about half health and then ran for it. I had to run around about 10 minutes with them chasing after me the whole time until I finally found the zone entrance. I used to love that game...... not any more.

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Cerion
04.26.2012 , 09:49 AM | #57
Quote: Originally Posted by Galbatorrix View Post
It's not about being read aloud to. It's about enjoying a cinematic experience. WOW, for instance, doesn't have that in it's quests. Most people that play games like that have no clue why they're doing a quest. They just accept them all and then mindlessly complete them as they race to max level. TOR has changed the genre for the better, IMO, by making the leveling process fun again. The journey actually means something in TOR.

Also, if graphics, presentation, cinematic, etc don't make a difference, why aren't you still playing text based MMORPGs?
Funny you mention WoW quests. I'm a fan of Yogscast, and everytime they do a WoW spotlight, it's a pet peeve of mine that they NEVER read the quests. Half the time they're not even sure what they're doing...they simply follow the cliff notes version of the quest, follow the quest marker.

You see some players here trying to emulate that same behavior by 'spacebarring' through the stories. No wonder they don't like the game. And frankly, the game can do without them.
Good will always triumph because Evil is lazy.

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SuperBoogly
04.26.2012 , 09:51 AM | #58
Not really, but its getting close sadly. This game however did make my wife a Trekkie now
My Imperial Agent saves his trusty sidearm for those annoying cut-scene NPCs only!

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Cerion
04.26.2012 , 09:56 AM | #59
Quote: Originally Posted by Galbatorrix View Post
Because after playing games like TOR, games like EQ1 make me want to pull my hair out. I recently downloaded EQ1 and my level 35 Warrior and 38 Druid were still there... 8 years after I unsubbed. I attacked one undead MOB standing around these ruins and like 4 more joined the fight. I got down to about half health and then ran for it. I had to run around about 10 minutes with them chasing after me the whole time until I finally found the zone entrance. I used to love that game...... not any more.
I'm the same way. About once every two years I get the nostalgia bug, and I log in to my old characters on EQ1. But unlike some posters here, after about half an hour I realize WHY I left that game. It was interesting and fun when I played it last decade, but that's because there was nothing else to compare. The gameplay is horrible.

The only thing I still give EQ credit for is creating some very interesting and magical zones. On the occasions that I do return to EQ, it's primarily just to visit the zones themselves, not to actually fight anything.
Good will always triumph because Evil is lazy.

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Galbatorrix
04.26.2012 , 09:57 AM | #60
Quote: Originally Posted by Cerion View Post
Funny you mention WoW quests. I'm a fan of Yogscast, and everytime they do a WoW spotlight, it's a pet peeve of mine that they NEVER read the quests. Half the time they're not even sure what they're doing...they simply follow the cliff notes version of the quest, follow the quest marker.

You see some players here trying to emulate that same behavior by 'spacebarring' through the stories. No wonder they don't like the game. And frankly, the game can do without them.

WOW's quest are typically so mundane and poorly written that it's not even worth reading the text.