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The Rakghoul Plague Outbreak Event - Best Ending ever!

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The Rakghoul Plague Outbreak Event - Best Ending ever!

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Melycinya
04.24.2012 , 04:01 AM | #131
Quote: Originally Posted by Rowandiki View Post
where is the agreement if you ride into the ffa area ? You are warned. The announcements warn you of the plague, you were warned. You were given a immunity potion against it that lasted 4/5 hours I'd say it was intentional and not a glitch. to those saying it is a glitch and something should be done about it. why would they if they won't even say it was a glitch ?? See, you are wrong.
"To keep the Service a compliant, fun, fair and safe gaming environment for everyone, you may not engage in any of the following behavior:

17. Exploit any bug in the Service to gain unfair advantage in the game and/or communicate the existence of any such bug (either directly or through the public posting) to any other user of the Service."


Once again, in yellow.

The event is technically over, but the effects are going to linger*, so them announcing the glitch now (unless they've added a fix in a patch today) would be them going against their TOS.

*"Update #2 April 23rd: We wanted to warn players that the effects of the plague may linger after the event is over. Vaccines will still be readily available."

Quote: Originally Posted by Rowandiki View Post
given the level of this would be glitch and potential of people affected by it, silence doesnt work here. That part you quoted applies to us not them. And means if your right, all of you are in violation of the tos. Thank God your wrong.
...You know what, you're right. Most of the posts in this thread (if not the whole thing) will probably be deleted once the mods find it, if the exploit wasn't fixed in maintenance. I will concede this point to you, good sir, and cross my fingers that they've fixed this.
I love turning heads.
My favorite part is the kr-KRAK just before they throw themselves at my feet.

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SoonerJBD
04.24.2012 , 04:01 AM | #132
Quote: Originally Posted by Rowandiki View Post
No. show me where your own faction attacks you in a similiar fashion. You got infected they want to contain the infection so they attack you. Where else does that happen ?
So now you want to know if this unique story was repeated exactly at another point in the game? If that were the case, why would they have inserted this as a unique world event. There is only one flashpoint where I am asked to kill Darth Malgus but that is not some sort of code for PvP either. It's as if all logic and reason have vanished into thin air.

PvP = Player versus player
PvE = Player versus environment (read: NPCs)

It's what the acronyms stand for. My 4-year-old nephew could understand this.

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RDeanOU
04.24.2012 , 04:02 AM | #133
Quote: Originally Posted by Rowandiki View Post
nice try. This is something that potentially effects a large amount of players. Their is no sense in silence. If they were saying "This is an expliot, do it and once reported you will be banned." Would encourage more people to do it.

I think not.
Then why do you suppose that despite all of the glitches and exploits they have fixed over time that they have never ever...not even once announced that there was an exploitable glitch before they had the chance to fix said glitch?

If they weren't worried that announcing a gltich or "warning" people about it would make the problem worse then why don't they do that?

Do you maybe want to take some time to think about it?

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SoonerJBD
04.24.2012 , 04:04 AM | #134
Quote: Originally Posted by Rowandiki View Post
given the level of this would be glitch and potential of people affected by it, silence doesnt work here. That part you quoted applies to us not them. And means if your right, all of you are in violation of the tos. Thank God your wrong.
The bug can't be exploited anymore. And what they are asking is that you not announce an exploit with the intention of informing others of how to exploit it. They are not suggesting you should not report a bug.

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Larkarus
04.24.2012 , 04:06 AM | #135
Quote: Originally Posted by RDeanOU View Post
I really don't think the Republic players outnumbered at least 3 to 1 would have had much chance to kill the people camping the vendor. You have kind of a naive view of a PVP environment if you think it is always something resembling a fair fight in these situations.
The whole fun of World PvP is that most of the time, it's not anything resembling fair. However, I'm not aware of any servers where one faction outnumbers the other by 3:1 (regardless of what the forums say, the average seems to be 1:1.3; Ajunta Pall, my Republic Server, outnumbers the Imps). Organizing an offense or defense may be more challenging than hitting a queue button (heavens forbid, you may even be forced to interact with other players), but I disagree with your implication that it would be impossible.

While I can sympathize (barely) with the complaints of unintended flagging on PvE servers, and the lack of a mechanism to counteract players physically blocking the vendor on a PvE server if they are not flagged, this whole situation pretty much highlights the drawback of PvE rulesets: an unnecessary limitation on player interaction which will leave you open to griefing regardless . Griefers don't need a PvP ruleset to ruin your enjoyment of the game.

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Drakkip
04.24.2012 , 04:08 AM | #136
Quote: Originally Posted by Rowandiki View Post
So now I'm trolling because I disagree with you ? The terms do not apply here, why is that so hard to understand ? It's like riding into the boss FFA did you agree to that ?
lol....

No, you are wrong because you are wrong.

You claimed:

Quote: Originally Posted by Rowandiki View Post
What makes it a glitch ? They took the server down several times during the event if it was a glitch it most likely would have been fixed. This was a pvp themed/based event heck if you tried to take out the boss it was in a FFA pvp area. I find it hard that anyone (except a player that joined yesterday) would have a spendable amount of dna and not know that being infected flags them. Plague flags you and vaccine prevents it, it wasn't hard to figure out.
Bolding and highlighting by me for emphasis

That assertion is wrong. It has been stated many times it is wrong. It's wrong because it is not true, not any other reason. Take a step back and re-read slowly and carefully.

The rules for a pve server are MUTUAL CONSENT, you have failed in any way to demonstrate how:

Faction A exploding beside faction B neither flagged results in no flagging but;
Faction A flags just before he explodes now faction B is flagged somehow represents mutual consent.

if it's not mutual consent then it's not mutual consent. You have also failed to point to any place in which there was a clear "suspension" of the rules for PVE servers. Just because you jump up and down shouting " The terms do not apply here" doesn't make it so.

If it's not mutual consent then that is not in line with the description for a PVE server. If it's not in line with that then that would be a glitch/bug/exploit.

If there were a bug in the game where you could attack mobs and they couldn't attack you back, it doesn't take a university degree to recognize that would be an unintended game mechanic (See glitch) and you probably shouldn't be doing it. Same thing here.

Sometimes wrong is wrong, because guess what? It's wrong.

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amantheil
04.24.2012 , 04:08 AM | #137
Quote: Originally Posted by Rowandiki View Post
post something on THIS EVENT! Otherwise your spamming the same nonsense. If events don't challenge players in different ways then they'll all be boring and not worth doing. Do you guys seriously see no merit in banding together and defeating the enemy blocking your path ? I love it when players come together and do that, this was engineered to do that. Again post something they've said about this event, if you were right, then why havent they ? According to you it's clearly against tos, right ? why havent they confirmed it ? Big surprise.
Are you honestly still holding to the idea that forcing someone to flag for PvP on a PvE server is acceptable? To anyone with an ounce of common sense, it's either a bug or bad design. But keep telling yourself it's intended and on purpose, if it helps you sleep at night.

player- vs.- player fights must be agreed to by both sides.

Is that concept really that difficult for you too comprehend? Or are you simply that bad at PvP that the only way you can beat people is take them by suprise and to fight people who aren't intereted in PvP?

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SoonerJBD
04.24.2012 , 04:09 AM | #138
Quote: Originally Posted by Larkarus View Post
The whole fun of World PvP is that most of the time, it's not anything resembling fair. However, I'm not aware of any servers where one faction outnumbers the other by 3:1. Organizing an offense or defense may be more challenging than hitting a queue button (heavens forbid, you may even be forced to interact with other players), but I disagree with your implication that it would be impossible.

While I can sympathize (barely) with the complaints of unintended flagging on PvE servers, and the lack of a mechanism to counteract players physically blocking the vendor on a PvE server if they are not flagged, this whole situation pretty much highlights the drawback of PvE rulesets: an unnecessary limitation on player interaction which will leave you open to griefing regardless . Griefers don't need a PvP ruleset to ruin your enjoyment of the game.
Griefing isn't exclusive to PvP or PvE. People hanging around areas they out-level specifically to gank people just for giggles is griefing too, and it's why many people don't like playing on PvP servers.

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Larkarus
04.24.2012 , 04:13 AM | #139
Quote: Originally Posted by SoonerJBD View Post
Griefing isn't exclusive to PvP or PvE. People hanging around areas they out-level specifically to gank people just for giggles is griefing too, and it's why many people don't like playing on PvP servers.
On a PvP server, ganking regardless of level disparity, is not griefing. There is a solution available via player interaction (ie, PvP).

I do agree that you will find griefers on any type of server; on a PvP server, however, they have fewer rules to exploit, and one has more ways of dealing with them.

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Drakkip
04.24.2012 , 04:13 AM | #140
Quote: Originally Posted by Rowandiki View Post
No. show me where your own faction attacks you in a similiar fashion. You got infected they want to contain the infection so they attack you. Where else does that happen ?
In the Jedi Consular Story line your jedi master attacks you and you have to defend yourself.

Happy, I gave you an example of your own faction attacking you <rolls eyes>