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Your technology needs help... lots of help... lots and LOTS of help. :(

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Your technology needs help... lots of help... lots and LOTS of help. :(

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terminova
04.26.2012 , 10:25 AM | #161
Quote: Originally Posted by Tristik View Post
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My load times were long to begin with, but seems like they've gotten significantly longer after a month or two of not playing. Little hiccups all over the place still suck too (mount/dismount, open character pane, etc).

Shall we add in the fact that if i close the game from the task manager, it closes immediately, but if i quit via in-game methods, it stops responding for like 2 minutes before it finally closes?
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Do you have virtual memory enabled? After I turned Virtual Memory off, the game quit instantly when I used the in-game method to quit the game. I'd read somewhere that SWTOR maintains a sizeable swap-file if virtual memory is used, and makes the game take longer to quit via in-game methods.

All I really know is that with virtual memory on, game shutdown takes forever and can freeze the client and without virtual memory on game shutdown is immediate and doesn't cause the client to freeze.
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I support...wait, which thread is this? Sorry, I'm following a lot of flame wars at the moment. Uh, oh yeah, clicking!

I support clicking!

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Januaria
04.26.2012 , 10:30 AM | #162
Quote: Originally Posted by BawsHogg View Post
read the title, read half of the first sentence , then decided ........


GO MAKE YOUR OWN *********** GAME BRO
I did not find your response to be particularly helpful to this discussion.

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Januaria
04.26.2012 , 10:33 AM | #163
Quote: Originally Posted by Efour View Post
Sorry but that is unplayable and i dont want my ATI card to melt through the Earth's crust to try and find its way back to China.
Now that just made me laugh out loud at work! Huzzah to you, sir.

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terminova
04.26.2012 , 11:43 AM | #164
Quote: Originally Posted by chaosdefined View Post
Quick question, I'm not incredibly technically minded, but how do I check on my GPU temperature whilst running SWTOR?
I've been using MSI Afterburner to both monitor and adjust the fan speeds of my graphics cards. It's been good at keeping the temp around 62C when SWTOR is running down from 72-80C without. The program can display both GPU temp and fan speed in the task bar.

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I have checked the CPU usage and whilst not too high, I did notice that SWTOR opens two processes which take up a fair amount of physical memory, which is strange.
It's not really strange, one is probably the launcher program and the other is the actual game client. This is probably to keep multiple clients from being opened on a single computer. The amount of memory being used should be normal considering how the game loads zones.
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Rotny
04.26.2012 , 12:07 PM | #165
But I love when the game freezes anytime another player comes near me. When I'm out on a planet it's like a warning that another player is near even though I don't have line of sight on him
LOL.
Actually it's not funny at all.
All these weekly DEV Q&As and I still haven't seen them address why the game freezes anytime you open a ui window, or another player comes near or a quest updates.
Also what the hell is with the game taking 60 seconds to close. You know I had gotten used to it "not responding" when I tried to exit out of SWTOR. Then I played the D3 open beta last weekend and when it closed in 1 second it struck me again how broke SWTOR is.
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kurzis
04.26.2012 , 12:14 PM | #166
Justice bump.

great post op

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Matteis
04.26.2012 , 01:12 PM | #167
I agree 100% OP.

I unsubbed precisely because of the abundance of, and length of time load screens take. This is a lobbied multiplayer game at best - lack of seamless design makes for a sectioned off single player feel and kills the immersion into a convincing game world to sink one's time into. Yes my sig indicates I was in beta and you may ask, "Why did you buy the game if you didn't like the game design that far out?". Well, in a beta, everything is subject to change and I was praying to the tech-gods that the horrible loading times and abundance of black screens and elevators were just placeholders for some epic polished solution that would be released for the gold client. I asked plenty of times in the closed forums back then and had no official responses, of course. There were so many obstacles during travel that they just had to be placeholders, no AAA title would release calling themselves an MMO with all this red tape in between traveling!!!! Indeed internal builds are ahead of any beta, and I clung to this hope even in the final weeks of testing. I was let down of course with launch build. My morale was instantly shot.

Fun gameplay (post-ability delay fix), bad game world. I warned them on these forums about needing a seamless game design from the beginning when we knew nothing about the galaxy design. They did not heed the words! A few planets with massive designs would have been the best thing for this game, not dozens of places segregated by horrible, lengthy loading screens and cumbersome elevators and orbital stations.

This was a core design issue that from the very beginning set this title up for failure imo. It only helped sell copies of WoW as undecided gamers craved that large open feeling of adventure and exploration they want in an MMO.
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Lokai
04.26.2012 , 01:22 PM | #168
Quote: Originally Posted by Grandma View Post
Only ever takes me about 5 seconds to get past a loading screen. I have a 3year old GTX295 and spent some additional cash on getting some extra RAM (12GB worth DDR3). I use the RAMdisk software/method. GF uses a 560GTi and only has about 6GB RAM, takes her about 10-15 seconds tops. When you spend 30mins-1hr on most planets at a time, those seconds aren't so bad. Could be a little more annoying for constant WZ loading, but considering you'll have to wait 2mins to start for everyone to get in anyway, it's no big deal.

Nice go at pointing out the more technical aspects and the reasons for the performance hit, is much better than most do. I'm just not sure that those seconds mean that much in the grand scheme of things. Would rather other issues were fixed or more things added as time goes on.
you have a high preformance gaming PC most people do not, heck i consider my PC to be fairly top notch yet doesnt come close to what you listed.

12 gigs of ram? average is only 4 gigs most hard core gamers want 8 at best, your way over that.

6gigs of video ram? average player is rolling with 1 gig of video ram... some might go 2 or 3 but 6 seems excessive...

You use RAMdisk most i dont think are using this method...

anyway not going to go on i will leave it at...your a PC gamer with a PC gamers PC, with a high end top preformance system is 3 years old yet STILL far exceeding average players system and what most gaming PC players feel is needed... basically your sitting in a ferrari while most of people playing TOR are in a ford... simple as that.
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Seberus
04.26.2012 , 02:11 PM | #169
Thank you for posting this OP.

This provided some good insight into what is causing a lot of the "hitches" that occur within the game. I have noticed the problem get a bit worse after 1.2 - now I even get a short pause/hitch after looting a materail node for professions (scavenging, archeology, etc). They definitely need to do something.

Thanks for your clear and concise explanation, and your time. Hopefully they actually take this information and change their tech how you have suggested.

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Rowandiki
04.27.2012 , 01:45 AM | #170
Quote: Originally Posted by Canmore View Post
Actualy the OP just sounds butt hurt he didnt get a job with EA lol
EA for a long time was\is one of the worst companies to work for in the gaming industry.