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Jedis should have started as kids in SWTOR .. read

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Jedis should have started as kids in SWTOR .. read

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Bhaers
04.22.2012 , 10:56 PM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by DeutschGamer View Post
The real master/padawan comes from...
Spoilers please!

What is it with people wishing to ruin even the smallest parts of the surprise? Playing my Inquisitor the number of comments regarding Khem have completely ruined the story. I can easily guess what's about to happen to whom and why it will happen and my inquisitor is only level 20 now.

You and those NPCs being master/padawan is mild in terms of spoiling the story BUT it is something that is a key part of the story, as such I am sad to see it spoiled for others.
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DeutschGamer
04.23.2012 , 12:31 AM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by Bhaers View Post
Spoilers please!

What is it with people wishing to ruin even the smallest parts of the surprise? Playing my Inquisitor the number of comments regarding Khem have completely ruined the story. I can easily guess what's about to happen to whom and why it will happen and my inquisitor is only level 20 now.

You and those NPCs being master/padawan is mild in terms of spoiling the story BUT it is something that is a key part of the story, as such I am sad to see it spoiled for others.
You can look up their names and profiles on this website, there were no spoilers. The actual content of that relationship, how it comes to fruition, what happens between you, all of that is for people to discover.

I'm not a fan of people who think of themselves as spoiler police, you can really blur the lines and lash out to the littlest things.
Its all the force's fault.

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Hitomo_x
04.23.2012 , 01:26 AM | #13
this would be complete nonsense ...

the idea of jedis starting there training as childs
is absurd ... it would be clearly against the idea
of the order to force children under the rules of a jedis live

so just because George needed some adorable childs
wielding lightswords in the movies to sell more toys he
ruined the whole idea of the jedi order ... making yoda
train all thise childs ruines his status as a master
like introduced in the old movies completly ...

in the game only sith are sending there childs to the academy,
to become a jedi is never a process forced upon you by others

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dazednconfuzed
04.23.2012 , 04:42 AM | #14
Perhaps they should redo character creation so it is more like Fallout 3's beginning.

First off, you are born. You get to choose your sex (and race in TOR).
Skip to a few years later, you are in school at a fairly young age. You take some test that points you in the direction of your career/class.
A few more years on from that, you have a few tutorial missions to help get used to how MMOs work (in case you are new to the genre) - combat, interacting with objects/people, etc. This is where you get to create what your character looks like as an adult.
"Graduation". Troopers receive their mail inviting them to join Havoc Squad. Jedi/Sith receive notification of their upcoming trip to Korriban/Tython. Bounty Hunters receive their mail inviting them to take part in the Great Hunt. And so on.
Game starts where it does at the moment.
Jedi Master Kai'sinn. Not only evil hides in the shadows.
Jedi Master Tzathali. Korriban/Tython Exchange Program.
Major Dulne. Nothing will stop Havoc Squad, Sir.

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Mechavomit
04.23.2012 , 06:31 AM | #15
In that case, so sould Warriors.
And what about Inquisitors? They can start as little tea-serving slaves, then get discovered, trained, etc.

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"Graduation". Troopers receive their mail inviting them to join Havoc Squad. Jedi/Sith receive notification of their upcoming trip to Korriban/Tython. Bounty Hunters receive their mail inviting them to take part in the Great Hunt. And so on
Yeah, via owl

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dazednconfuzed
04.23.2012 , 06:36 AM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by Mechavomit View Post
Yeah, via owl
Potter Wars: The Old Hogwarts? Lol
Jedi Master Kai'sinn. Not only evil hides in the shadows.
Jedi Master Tzathali. Korriban/Tython Exchange Program.
Major Dulne. Nothing will stop Havoc Squad, Sir.

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psandak
04.23.2012 , 08:10 AM | #17
I'll you why this is not a good idea - because if you do it for one you have to do it for all; BW would have to come up with childhood cut scenes for each class. Why? because players love to complain about EVERYTHING, even when there is little or no reason to. If you gave jedi a childhood scene, then sith would demand it too (as they are both trained from childhood). But then all the players of BH, IA, Sm, and troop would get all bent of of shape because their characters did not get a childhood scene.

Further I agree with with was said above in that having a childhood scene or quest chain would reduce the effect of "head canon". With this in mind, a cut scene would not do, it would have to be a quest line (albeit a short one) because of "future" LS/DS choices - a cut scene of a jedi would most likely be pure LS, but what if the player wants to role play a DS jedi?

The solution is to allow the players to use their imagination. Let them come up with a background that drives their characters to make the choices they make.

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SpoeMeister
04.23.2012 , 08:33 AM | #18
My Bounty Hunter childhood will be very different than my girlfriends Bounty Hunter Childhood... See where I'm going with this?

It's already bad enough that my JK was supposedly trained at the Academy... why couldn't I be trained by a rogue Jedi? Why did my Inquisitor have to be a slave? See where I'm going with this?

It is fine as it is. Your childhood is not relevant for the story to unfold.
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ScarletBlaze
04.23.2012 , 08:39 AM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by Clonedzero View Post
when you start in SWTOR its implied that you've been training for years and years and you just came to tython to complete your final trials to advance past padawan status. which works for MANY reasons.

- it allows freedom of character past for each player to create a small backstory as how and why they were trained by the jedi. how they were discovered and when.
- it starts the player off old enough that they feel in control of their character and not handicapped by the fact that they are a child.
- the player, character and situations can start off as more mature and serious, where if they started as a child it'd feel necessary to add in lighthearted silly humor.
- it skips the unnecessary parts of the jedi training. this isn't the start of the jedi's training, its the start of their story arch. allowing for you to start doing important things out of the gate.
- it allows for them to show your character as the lore-wise ****** that he/she is. rather than a new student who doesnt understand anything.
- players can get more into character when playing a character their age or at least an adult. playing as a child feels awkward for most adults.
- forces awkward time skips from childhood training to adulthood, why? it doesnt help the story at all. it just forces back story on players who'd rather have an open backstory for their own headcanon.
- even if this was a good idea, which its not. why just jedi? sith are often trained from childhood as well. so why not start a sith off as a child? cus you'd end up killing other children most likely? too dark? seems like a double standard to me.
- it would slow down pacing, opening as a child, doing some goofy training sequences, then jumping ahead to adulthood to finish your trials. seems really poorly paced and forced.

in short i completely disagree.
This. In my case being a child would have not fit my backstory I already had prior to SWTOR.
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Thebazilly
04.23.2012 , 08:44 AM | #20
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