The end of the arguement. Is SWTOR in decline? Can it be saved?

No

I have been angry at an MMO I have paid for, I canceled my subscription and went on to other things.

I didn’t announce to the world that I am quitting ( I am not delusional to think that others give 2 cents what I do )
I certainly didn’t post on their boards trying to entice others or even advise others to quit, ( what in the world would be my personal incentive to do that, it is insane )

And I didn’t waste a moment of my time posting on the boards of a game I was not currently playing

Oh no... there are other factors involved here

They either have an interest in trying to get others to quit
Or they have a psychological complex thinking they can bend others, either players or a software company to their will.
I personally could care less about the opinions of either of those categories.

Again you are wrong lol. They would unless they hit cancel subscription. Which the CAN do with a gametime card lol.

Well as I said a great deal of it is motivated by EA hate, and I understand what we are seeing here is not reality; very few actual players post here, if they have free time they are playing not posting . I post while waiting for something to render or a database to become ready. Most of the hate machine post twelve to sixteen hours a day which is both sad and pathetic .

It is quite a different perspective than mine. If I dislike something, last thing I want to do is, well, wallow in it. The desire to hang around, post bitterly and assert that "by gawd, I paid for this time so I am going to YELL 'til my time is up" is most bemusing to me. And over a GAME. I don't even want to know how they might carry on over something, y'know, important.

It's like my good friend who manages our local Gamestop said;

" I stopped considering official forums valid when the first person walked up to my counter with six boxes of EQ2, I asked him if he was a multi boxer and he said no he just hated SOE and liked to Troll forums."

The good news is developers know this too, and that's why they take these forums with a huge grain of salt.

Yes you can click on the cancel button all you want, so can I with an already "cancelled" account, but that doesn't matter because all you are doing is clicking a web page button.

Because there's no difference from Biowares end between a cancelled credit/debit card account and a gamecard account - under his system.

I really cannot explain it in more simple terms, I'm sorry but you're just plain incorrect.

I can you don't know what your talking about so you keep talking in circles. He said to simply add a thing that when you click cancel it removes your forum access regardless of whether you have time left or not. The game doesnt care how you pay.

Ok lets see if we can make you understand this by going at it from the opposite direction.

What happens to your account with a game card if you don't click cancel?

Does it:

a) run forever because it needs you to click cancel for your game time to run out.
Or
b) stop the moment you run out of game time, whether you click "cancel" or not.


A or B?

So lets hear it, what would it take (for those that aren't sure or maybe have already cancelled) to bring you back?

For me, they would need to make the worlds feel more accessible. I got tired of hitting exhaustion areas, invisible walls, red barriers, caves meant for another class etc. Almost all the buildings you see have no access. Seeing npcs sit in chairs, play games, lean against poles etc just made my character feel like a tourist and not an actual part of the game world. Wish my character could do those things. Also, the worlds never change time of day and the creatures barely move. There aren't very many little things like critters, bugs, leaves falling, stuff moving around. It sort of feels like the game is on pause as I move through it.

When it runs out obviously your account would go inactive. We are talking about the time between when you click the cancel button physically and when your time runs out. I dont know why you have such a hard time with this.

So in other words if they completely redid the entire game over again and made it like WoW youd come back? You expect them to do this for $15 a mo?