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The end of the arguement. Is SWTOR in decline? Can it be saved?

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The end of the arguement. Is SWTOR in decline? Can it be saved?

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Leggomy
04.26.2012 , 08:31 AM | #891
Quote: Originally Posted by Jett-Rinn View Post
Yes Ignore is a wonderful thing.


And yes it is the same fifteen people...the odd thing is some of the names change but the over all writing styles are almost identical.

/tinfoilhat
Ive noticed this also. I also notice they have no real complaints. Its always generalized "I dont like this". They expect a complete re-write of the game from the ground up. All to keep that little $15. Also it is ego. This person is telling Bioware "You dont know who I am!". They are right we dont know and honestly dont care. Its one person out of millions.

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DieAlteHexe
04.26.2012 , 08:31 AM | #892
Quote: Originally Posted by Jett-Rinn View Post
Yes Ignore is a wonderful thing.


And yes it is the same fifteen people...the odd thing is some of the names change but the over all writing styles are almost identical.

/tinfoilhat
I hadn't noticed...unless you mean the SHOUTING bits and those tend to just go in one eye and out the...wait, that doesn't work...I pay them very little attention.

I really enjoy a good debate but man, some of these folk aren't in the least bit interested in debate or discussion, they just want to SHOUT.

Ugh.

I told a bit of a fib earlier, we DID loose one person. I'd forgotten, her puter melted and she's not yet gotten a new one and has no time frame of when she will.
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Samvan
04.26.2012 , 08:31 AM | #893
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackardin View Post
Had you posted logical argument backed up with factual data, past experience, even anecdotal evidence, that evidence, and not your attitude would have come into question and there in is where they debate would lay. You did not
Oh believe me dear Blackardin, believe me that I've tried.

Ever heard of Horrid FPS? I have aswell made topics about my issues with a good tone, with results of being attacked. What my first post did was nothing insulting.

I reported that in my eyes the game is sinking, warning other people to evacuate before it sinks. Nothing less and nothing more. Please explain how that is offending, it's not.

Quote: Originally Posted by Blackardin View Post
and now you are attempting to accuse me of behaving in a childish manner now that your behavior has been called out. That tactic works only when two are exchanging words, not when there is a trail of written evidence. ;p
This is very wrong, now you're certainly assuming things. Please quote me where I used the terms "childish" "kiddy behaviour" as a personal attack towards you. No, there is nothing. Infact there have been attacks towards me claiming that my posts and "opinions" are childish.

I haven't personally insulted anyone, infact I've had a very good tone and been a very nice guy

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Marrond
04.26.2012 , 08:34 AM | #894
Quote: Originally Posted by Jett-Rinn View Post
But keep in mind that GW and GW2 can sell a box and that person never has to log in and they are counted Arenanet never has to lift a finger to further their success. BioWare has to work for it every day with a very large and very well financed lobbying group that wants to see any BioWare product fail.
You're completely missing the point with this post. Arenanet doesn't get any money if players play or not - if players are not playing it's even better for them (less cost to keep up servers running). They only get money from retail box (which was little over half price of SWTOR to be precise) - and BW got outrageous of money from retail boxes + subscribers. Even when subscribers don't play. BW has to work hard everyday to keep that subscribers in place if they want BONUS money.

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Taoretas
04.26.2012 , 08:37 AM | #895
Quote: Originally Posted by Samvan View Post
Oh believe me dear Blackardin, believe me that I've tried.

Ever heard of Horrid FPS? I have aswell made topics about my issues with a good tone, with results of being attacked. What my first post did was nothing insulting.

I reported that in my eyes the game is sinking, warning other people to evacuate before it sinks. Nothing less and nothing more. Please explain how that is offending, it's not.



This is very wrong, now you're certainly assuming things. Please quote me where I used the terms "childish" "kiddy behaviour" as a personal attack towards you. No, there is nothing. Infact there have been attacks towards me claiming that my posts and "opinions" are childish.

I haven't personally insulted anyone, infact I've had a very good tone and been a very nice guy
You have been posting for about 5 pages now? I must say, You have one and one only statement right? If somone reads all your posts right now I think people would consider you Self centerd.

You got you'r 30 days game time, we get it. You wanna stay here for 30 days?

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Jett-Rinn
04.26.2012 , 08:38 AM | #896
Quote: Originally Posted by Marrond View Post
I understand EA haters - what they did to WHO is UNACCEPTABLE. What they're doing to their other games is unacceptable too. They're making good games overall but they didn't learn yet that if game went to shops already and it's not polished/finished they will have to do this after release which seems to hurt them very, very much because they're avoiding it as hell. There are so many examples of this. The one why I might hate them is what they did to BF series for example. BF2 was patched properly few years after release. BF3 is over half year after release yet still they can't patch some basic issues and bugs. It's very wide story for another topic - although it's acceptable (which should be anyway) in SP, MP games in one or the other way, it's completely unacceptable in MMO market.
What they did or do is no different than what Activision or any other publisher dose, there are no "good guy" mega corp publishers...I know because I have consulted for three devlopers in my lifetime and if money didn't matter and they had creative freedom we would all be better off; yet the business isn't like that and it is a business.

I could care less who is publishing If a game is fun to me I buy it and play it until it's no longer fun because I am a gamer, not a wall street speculator or a Armchair developer. if a developer screws up I vote with my wallet and they never hear from me again, because my lack of financial support and silence speaks louder than any forum rant.

There are hundreds of thousands of self important forum lobbyist, some of which actually get paid to be so; and I want be so hypocritical to hate one company that is no different from ever other one.
No one hates Star Wars as much as "Star Wars fans"

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Samvan
04.26.2012 , 08:39 AM | #897
Quote: Originally Posted by Taoretas View Post
You got you'r 30 days game time, we get it. You wanna stay here for 30 days?
"Want" and "want".

I'll use it because it's been given free. Do you always refuse free food if it's not toxic/disgusting?

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Taoretas
04.26.2012 , 08:40 AM | #898
Quote: Originally Posted by Samvan View Post
"Want" and "want".

I'll use it because it's been given free. Do you always refuse free food if it's not toxic/disgusting?
So...you eat toxic/disgusting food then is that what you are implying with all this? Don't get it.

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Samvan
04.26.2012 , 08:41 AM | #899
Quote: Originally Posted by Taoretas View Post
So...you eat toxic/disgusting food then is that what you are implying with all this? Don't get it.
I advise you to re-read my sentence and come back.

Thank you dear Taoretas.

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Goretzu
04.26.2012 , 08:41 AM | #900
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackardin View Post
Guild name, officers, web site, constitution. The corporation did, in fact, move in its entirety. Losing a few players has no bearing on that. Would Walmart be insighting hyperbole if they moved their entire operation from Boston to Toledo if they lost a few employees in the process?

You have done well to demonstrate my point there, skip. *sigh*
They would if they implied with hypebol that they didn't yes, skip.
Real Star Wars space combat please, not Star Wars Fox! Maybe some PvP and flight too?
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