The end of the arguement. Is SWTOR in decline? Can it be saved?

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The end of the arguement. Is SWTOR in decline? Can it be saved?

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Marrond

04.26.2012 , 08:21 AM \| #881
Quote: Originally Posted by Samvan Sir, Thank you my dear german friend. Lady, she said she's not german ;p

DieAlteHexe

04.26.2012 , 08:22 AM \| #882
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe Nah, they don't need to do that. People see them for what they are and are not at all convinced of their hyperbolic rhetoric. And there's always the /ignore feature. I've taken to using it liberally lately. Interestingly it's not all that many people, just the same ones over and over. Once on /ignore it makes most discussions much more pleasant.
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Jett-Rinn

04.26.2012 , 08:22 AM \| #883
Quote: Originally Posted by Marrond Well if you looked closer in all this QQ you would figure out one basic thing. The most complain is "why it isn't WoW". The game offers completely diffrent game design and mechanics, just like GW1 did back then - and yet GW2 is completely diffrent from GW1. Now you might say - "yet you are complaing why SWTOR isn't WoW too". I don't want it to be WoW - I personally don't like nor play WoW. Yet both games in terms of game mechanics are mostly the SAME, yet SWTOR is missing a lot content which in my and many others opinion would make game better. SWTOR is ok as long as you're planning play it only in a short run. After that stairs appears. You guys say game is ok, I say it SHOULD be better. You say WoW had back then same problems - I say we have 2012 and situation of WoW back then is nowhere near to situation of SWTOR now. You say BW stated there's 1,7m subs - I say what I see in game. You say SWTOR won't die - this is one thing I can agree with you, because even if game would be far worse than it is, hardcore SW/BW/EA fans would keep it alive anyway and I am sadly one of them (SW fan[atic]). All I don't understand is this global "yesman" attitude in common. Well I don't understand EA haters so we are even. But keep in mind that GW and GW2 can sell a box and that person never has to log in and they are counted Arenanet never has to lift a finger to further their success. BioWare has to work for it every day with a very large and very well financed lobbying group that wants to see any BioWare product fail. I have stood in lines at SDCC/PAX Prime and seen people give Daniel Erickson and Stephen Reid the finger as they walked by and shout insults that would make a priest Kick your butt. I hear people talk about typical gamers and I have to explain to them that those aren't gamers they are bitter trolls with an agenda. I'm far from a yesman, I have many rants on this forum about the sound and bugs, I want to see the game do better too...but I'm not going to behave like a jerk doing it.
No one hates Star Wars as much as "Star Wars fans"

DieAlteHexe

04.26.2012 , 08:22 AM \| #884
Quote: Originally Posted by Marrond Lady, she said she's not german ;p Heya, Marrond. Correct and correct. I'm an American living in Germany.
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Samvan

04.26.2012 , 08:23 AM \| #885
Quote: Originally Posted by Marrond Lady, she said she's not german ;p Hehe, I saw a german name so I assumed

deusBAAL

04.26.2012 , 08:24 AM \| #886
Did you guys found a "SWTOR is doomed (subs decline)" church yet?
Funny how PVP folks strive to become the best PK, while PVE folks know that PKs are just really really bad players.

JeramieCrowe

04.26.2012 , 08:25 AM \| #887
Quote: Originally Posted by Samvan Hehe, I saw a german name so I assumed Apparently, not the first time.
Allix Crowe - Vanguard Trooper -/- Ethavan Crowe - Smuggler Gunslinger -/- Malrath Crowe - Powertech Bounty Hunter -/- Boslo - Jedi Knight Sentinel -/- Jiao-gen Pall - Jedi Knight Guardian -/- Landen Tanarr - Jedi Consular Sage -/- Vaelyth Kinti-kaar- Sith Warrior Juggernaut -/- Oteln'erose'thu - Imperial Agent Sniper -/- Zandur Tuum - Cathar Knight

Blackardin

04.26.2012 , 08:25 AM \| #888
Quote: Originally Posted by Samvan But you haven't even asked why I'm dissatisfied. You're instead arguing that I have no rights to be here and I have no rights to make my voice heard since I'm "attacking" the game, which I am definitely not.....just criticising it. As far as I know, criticising a game without any personal insults are allowed. Are we now going to move to the passive aggressive game, where one declines to admit the action once cited for such, then proceed to accuse the other of the behavior? This was your first post. There was no need to ask since you presented a declaration, then proceeded to shout that you would continue to do so. Quote: This game has hit the iceberg. We should all bail out before it sinks! TORTanic here we come. Nothing more or less transpired here, and luckily, due to the written word the conversation can not be convoluted and twisted in the intended manner. Had you posted logical argument backed up with factual data, past experience, even anecdotal evidence, that evidence, and not your attitude would have come into question and there in is where they debate would lay. You did not, and now you are attempting to accuse me of behaving in a childish manner now that your behavior has been called out. That tactic works only when two are exchanging words, not when there is a trail of written evidence. ;p
May the Schwartz be with you....

Marrond

04.26.2012 , 08:28 AM \| #889
Quote: Originally Posted by Jett-Rinn Well I don't understand EA haters so we are even. I understand EA haters - what they did to WHO is UNACCEPTABLE. What they're doing to their other games is unacceptable too. They're making good games overall but they didn't learn yet that if game went to shops already and it's not polished/finished they will have to do this after release which seems to hurt them very, very much because they're avoiding it as hell. There are so many examples of this. The one why I might hate them is what they did to BF series for example. BF2 was patched properly few years after release. BF3 is over half year after release yet still they can't patch some basic issues and bugs. It's very wide story for another topic - although it's acceptable (which should be anyway) in SP, MP games in one or the other way, it's completely unacceptable in MMO market.

Jett-Rinn

04.26.2012 , 08:28 AM \| #890
Quote: Originally Posted by DieAlteHexe And there's always the /ignore feature. I've taken to using it liberally lately. Interestingly it's not all that many people, just the same ones over and over. Once on /ignore it makes most discussions much more pleasant. Yes Ignore is a wonderful thing. And yes it is the same fifteen people...the odd thing is some of the names change but the over all writing styles are almost identical. /tinfoilhat
No one hates Star Wars as much as "Star Wars fans"

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