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The end of the arguement. Is SWTOR in decline? Can it be saved?

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The end of the arguement. Is SWTOR in decline? Can it be saved?

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JeramieCrowe
04.24.2012 , 03:11 AM | #541
Quote: Originally Posted by Goretzu View Post
I'm not so sure, Blizzards WoW sub numbers are disingenuous to say the least, they use every trick in the book to padd them.
Yeah, but, of those 600 laid off, not a one was on the WoW team...
Allix Crowe - Vanguard Trooper -/- Ethavan Crowe - Smuggler Gunslinger -/- Malrath Crowe - Powertech Bounty Hunter -/- Boslo - Jedi Knight Sentinel -/- Jiao-gen Pall - Jedi Knight Guardian -/- Landen Tanarr - Jedi Consular Sage -/- Vaelyth Kinti-kaar- Sith Warrior Juggernaut -/- Oteln'erose'thu - Imperial Agent Sniper -/- Zandur Tuum - Cathar Knight

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Canmore
04.24.2012 , 03:37 AM | #542
bioware should have narrowed its expectations of its player base right from the get go . it should have targeted star wars fans and its rpg fan base , its tried to appeal to a huge audiance and its back fired , will the game die , noway , but there strategy was flawed trying to give a broad sweep , the old wow players etc where never going to be happy playing a brand new game with many functions they where used to missing .

if bioware takes my two cents into consideration they will concentrate on pleasing star wars fans and rpg enthusiasts and forget about trying to steal subscription numbers from wow etc .

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Goretzu
04.24.2012 , 03:39 AM | #543
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe View Post
Yeah, but, of those 600 laid off, not a one was on the WoW team...
How do you know that?


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Huge layoffs at Blizzard: 600 jobs to go
by Alice O'Connor, Feb 29, 2012 10:20am PST
Related Topics – World of Warcraft, StarCraft 2: Wings of Liberty, World of Warcraft: Mists of Pandaria, Blizzard, Activision, PC, Layoffs

Blizzard Entertainment has revealed plans to cut around 600 jobs globally, saying it needs to align its workforce with "current organizational needs." It insists that its "current development and publishing schedules will not be impacted," though around 10% of the people affected are from departments "related to development."

"Constant evaluation of teams and processes is necessary for the long-term health of any business," Blizzard CEO Mike Morhaime said in the announcement. "Over the last several years, we've grown our organization tremendously and made large investments in our infrastructure in order to better serve our global community. However, as Blizzard and the industry have evolved we've also had to make some difficult decisions in order to address the changing needs of our company."

"Knowing that, it still does not make letting go of some of our team members any easier. We're grateful to have had the opportunity to work with the people impacted by today's announcement, we're proud of the contributions they made here at Blizzard, and we wish them well as they move forward."

However, the announcement notes Blizzard is still hiring for a number of development roles.

To put the 600 figure into perspective, back in September 2009 Gamasutra reported Blizzard had over 4,600 employees globally. Then, in December 2010, it told the Orange County Register that it had hired over 1,000 employees within the last twelve months. Furthermore, Blizzard's website say it has over 1,500 working in its European offices alone. While 600 is still a lot of jobs to cut, Blizzard is a huge company.

The layoffs are probably in support and customer service, especially considering World of Warcraft is slowly but steadily losing players. The support-intensive MMO was down to 10.3 million so-called "subscribers" in November 2011, from a peak of 12 million in October 2010.

Blizzard is also skipping BlizzCon this year, spinning the pro-gaming section off into its own event, the 2012 Battle.net World Championship.
It says nothing about where exactly they are in the statement does it?
Real Star Wars space combat please, not Star Wars Fox! Maybe some PvP and flight too?
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JeramieCrowe
04.24.2012 , 05:09 AM | #544
Quote: Originally Posted by Goretzu View Post
How do you know that?
Quote:
World of Warcraft developer Blizzard has announced a major round of lay-offs, with around 600 employees now out of a job.
It added that 90 per cent of those affected are "not related to game development" and that the World of Warcraft development team is not affected at all.
From here.
Allix Crowe - Vanguard Trooper -/- Ethavan Crowe - Smuggler Gunslinger -/- Malrath Crowe - Powertech Bounty Hunter -/- Boslo - Jedi Knight Sentinel -/- Jiao-gen Pall - Jedi Knight Guardian -/- Landen Tanarr - Jedi Consular Sage -/- Vaelyth Kinti-kaar- Sith Warrior Juggernaut -/- Oteln'erose'thu - Imperial Agent Sniper -/- Zandur Tuum - Cathar Knight

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Indicium
04.24.2012 , 08:00 AM | #545
I just canceled my subscription.

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Jett-Rinn
04.24.2012 , 08:03 AM | #546
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Yeah, but, of those 600 laid off, not a one was on the WoW team...
No they were all from customer support due to the huge decrease in subs.
No one hates Star Wars as much as "Star Wars fans"

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ohpleasework
04.24.2012 , 08:07 AM | #547
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe View Post
Yeah, but, of those 600 laid off, not a one was on the WoW team...
Actually one of the layoffs did an IamA thread on Reddit. He was a long time tester for Star Craft 2. He said the WoW team took some hits, including some high level management, and In a response alluded that WoW's decline was mostly to blame for the ripple effect of layoffs. I trust his word over some executives, personally.

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Holden_Dissent
04.24.2012 , 08:12 AM | #548
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I just canceled my subscription.
The haters that don't even play this game finally convinced you that you weren't having fun?

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Tesclo
04.24.2012 , 08:14 AM | #549
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The haters that don't even play this game finally convinced you that you weren't having fun?
I'd wager it was more the trolls and fan boys that refuse to let anyone have an opinion other than "Bioware is God".

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Goretzu
04.24.2012 , 08:14 AM | #550
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No developers.

Quote: Originally Posted by Jett-Rinn View Post
No they were all from customer support due to the huge decrease in subs.
WoW hater?
Real Star Wars space combat please, not Star Wars Fox! Maybe some PvP and flight too?
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