The end of the arguement. Is SWTOR in decline? Can it be saved?

JeramieCrowe I won't comment your posts because it's just pointless in so many ways. Instead I would like to talk with you about offtopic. Let's start easily. Do you know what means shortcut PR? Do you know why there's something like PR involved in every commercial or public activity in our life? Did you EVER learned something about how to make good PR? Or atleast read some book about how to effectively use PR? Maybe something about buisness? Or groupleading? Maybe you looked over hyped Sun-Tzu's "The art of war"? anything?

Let me try one more time: Their metrics included people as subscribers who had signed up for the game, popped in their card information, but had yet to actually pay for a subscription. These are players who can play or not play at all and were (are) still considered subscribers.

If your hang up is with the word "inactive" let us then substitute it with "non-paying." They have demonstrated, quite clearly, that they included non-paying players as subscribers--a label generally reserved for paying customers.

So their 1.7 million subscribers wasn't actually 1.7 million subscribers.

We have no--zero--evidence to suggest that they don't still do this. To believe they don't is blind faith.

What you fail to understand is that I'm not proclaiming doom and gloom. I'm trying to paint a realistic portrait of the current state of the game. I'm somewhere between posters like you and posters like Seallone--I'm trying to be reasonable and pull people into the middle of the debate.

So don't assume that because my opinions or insights don't agree with yours that I'm somehow the enemy and should be "camped" in either corner.

Yea the only difference is that in warcraft, on a server as dead as 80% of SWTOR servers, you still can among many other things:
- Get a group for any heroic dungeon within 15 minutes as a DPS.
- Get a PvP Battleground within 5 minutes.
- Get a full LFR Raid within 20 minutes as a DPS.

ANY time during the day.

"This story arc is coming to an end with this game. That means the endings can be a lot more different. At this point we're taking into account so many decisions that you've made as a player and reflecting a lot of that stuff. It's not even in any way like the traditional game endings, where you can say how many endings there are or whether you got ending A, B, or C."

- Casey Hudson, Director Mass Effect 3

http://www.oxm.co.uk/37677/mass-effe...sophisticated/

Lied through his teeth a month before launch. That is word for word the ending to ME3.

"But! But! He said that so long ago! Games are always a work in progress! It's not a guarantee!"

Please guys, it's like kicking a puppy...

Wow, people are still trying to refute the doom-sayer trolls? you could have god himself come from the heavens, reveal himself to all mankind and tell these trolls the Game isn't 'TORtanic' and they'd carry on.

With over 200+ at the Fleet currently during prime time, I highly doubt that will happen. This is Republic. FYI.

Make that closer to 600 for me and I'd state 'this'.