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The end of the arguement. Is SWTOR in decline? Can it be saved?

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The end of the arguement. Is SWTOR in decline? Can it be saved?

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JeramieCrowe
04.22.2012 , 03:23 AM | #131
Quote: Originally Posted by SyphonLord View Post
I agree. BW really needs to wake up and see whats happening.

My server is in rapid decline and so many people complaining in general about failing population and less and less pvp matches.

If the population is not consolidated then this game will suffer as people will get frustrated as its an MMO after all
BioWare has already begun server transfers, sooo....
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JeramieCrowe
04.22.2012 , 03:26 AM | #132
Quote: Originally Posted by Marrond View Post
Yup, seems like a great singleplayer game to me. Oh, wait, it's MMO
After all the whining, crying, moaning, and QQing I've seen on other forums how there wasn't enough solo activities in MMOs, one MMO finally adds more solo content, and it's suddenly an SPRPG.

No, this fully multiplayer MMO just so happens to FINALLY have more solo content to do. And that's a good thing. In other MMOs I just didn't play during the day because there was nothing to do while the rest of my guild was at work.

You realize that TOR is actually keeping up with RIFT as far as endgame raids, PvP warfronts, and dungeons?
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Sanxxx
04.22.2012 , 03:44 AM | #133
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Yeah, my guild and I have stuck together through more MMOs than I can count over the last decade+.
This game has a great 1-50 experience, but brings nothing new to the table. Ten years of
MMORPG experience (emphasis on the RPG) would enable you to see that, doesn't make it a bad game, however for a good many BW failed to live up to promises (PvP) and expectations hence after a short period people are leaving in droves.

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Darka
04.22.2012 , 04:09 AM | #134
For me, MMOs are what you make of them. You put in what you get out of it, but for a large part I feel players have forgotten that and just enjoyed the ride of recent years games that held your hand from start to finish rather then make you do things and its flowed on.
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solnar_xan
04.22.2012 , 07:50 AM | #135
Quote: Originally Posted by Shingara View Post
Ow there is indeed a need to reply, what makes a car, 4 wheels, an engine and the ability to go backwards forwards and turn around corners. One car having a wankle engine and another having a dohc doesnt make either not a car just different engines, One car having leather and another having cloth interior doesnt make one more of a car then another.

And like MMO's cars that are adapted after purchase evolve over time, they dont stand still and rarly look anything like what they started out as. So a single player game with no updates ever can justifiably be compared to a showroom car that never has anything done to it, an mmo is a different beast, an mmo is and always is being updated and improved upon. They dont stand still and they never stay the same as what they were at launch.
/sigh you my friend are an idiot . And arguing with an idiot who refuses to see the point is pointless.

The point was and is -> are server transfers part of an MMO game? NO are they an expected feature of an MMO game YES. Now here is the bit for you: I build cars and games and I do top notch work I don't half *** it. Half A S S is not putting a trivial feature, that would take at most 1 week to implement and test, in at launch. Half A s s is not including feature that should obviously be available from launch at launch (legacy system). Half A s s is doing a piss poor job of designing a PvP system and then claiming it was just "interim"

You are just making excuses for piss poor game design and poor development skills. Being a professional in the field I can attest to this fact.

Hey, but you can be glad to know the next time I have to pull an engine to rebuild it I'll chuckle and laugh and think of what an idiot you are

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solnar_xan
04.22.2012 , 07:53 AM | #136
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe View Post
Majority of servers? Umm, no. I'm sorry, but no. A lot of servers, yes, but not the majority of them.

As of 10:00PM CDT last night:

Just counted right now on North America:

29 servers say Light
87 say Standard (my server falls into this category, and there are currently 114 on the Fleet)
3 are Heavy
2 are Very Heavy
And 1 is Full with a Queue.

And let me say this: On my server, with 114 on the Fleet, people still have trouble putting a group together. Because the server's empty? No, because less and less people, like myself, are willing to PuG anymore. It's just not worth the time and frustration.
Try counting at 5AM-8PM instead of at peak hrs

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solnar_xan
04.22.2012 , 07:55 AM | #137
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe View Post
So... you have several level 50's, experienced that much story and content.... and the game is only 3 months old...

Every other MMO must really suck for you at launch, since NONE have ever had as much content as TOR did at launch, and at 3 months old...
I want to see an itemized list to back up this BS claim you keep making about content and how epic TOR is. When I say itemized I want a list of every feature TOR had at launch and the hours of game play as well as that of every other MMORPG to date.

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solnar_xan
04.22.2012 , 08:07 AM | #138
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe View Post
"Hardmode" in TOR is "Dismiss Companion". So far, everyone who claims the game was "too easy" has yet to do this.
I've been doing this and am currently at level 25 on my alt alt alt using legacy gear and purple armors mods; sorry it is very easy maybe it will get harder but so far I have only died when I tried to 1 man that HEROIC 4

The game is super easy if you are a veteran MMORPG player.

That is my current mini game to keep me playing upgrade gear to next tier purple armor, mods, enhancement, hilts etc every 3levels pwn pwn pwn. TO EASY but I doubt an iron man challenge would work in TOR; at least not with the exact same rules I for example use medpacs and stims while I pwn pwn pwn without my companion...

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solnar_xan
04.22.2012 , 08:10 AM | #139
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe View Post
Yeah, my guild and I have stuck together through more MMOs than I can count over the last decade+.
Man I wish I could find a guild where I fit in like that.

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Andryah
04.22.2012 , 08:13 AM | #140
Quote: Originally Posted by solnar_xan View Post
I've been doing this and am currently at level 25 on my alt alt alt using legacy gear and purple armors mods; sorry it is very easy maybe it will get harder but so far I have only died when I tried to 1 man that HEROIC 4
You complain the game leveling is too easy when you twink your character in moddable gear with purple mods.

Then stop twinking, and Level in green drop/quest gear then.
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