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Why non-stop alt leveling will fail.

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Distracted
04.23.2012 , 04:01 AM | #151
Quote: Originally Posted by gunsligger View Post
I have yet to meet a majority of persons more interested in leveling an alt than that of the populace that's more interested in achieving max level (quickly) and playing end game. I have heard time and time, again and again by unbiased players, that they're not concered with a story line, it's the end game that's the beginning of the game.
That would be because we alt levelers keep to ourselves & enjoy the game.

Endgame isn't the beginning of the game, it's the end of the game. Hence the name.
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Sanxxx
04.23.2012 , 04:08 AM | #152
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PvP in all fairness, is not repetitive
Fair post other than the above, the current state of PvP is extremely repetitive and IMO bordering on a disgrace.

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DalrisThane
04.23.2012 , 04:30 AM | #153
Deleted. No point. Everyone is TLDR these days. +See Sig.
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Ramayana
04.23.2012 , 04:33 AM | #154
Quote: Originally Posted by Lunazen View Post
I have heard a few times that end game is the only game. OP, you state that most MMO gamers feel this way.

Sorry but I must disagree with that statement. I don't know where you get your ideas about most gamers (from the forums?), but every single gamer I know wants a rich MMO experience from beginning to end and beyond.

Personally, story/lore is very important to me. The journey is the most fun for me. When I reach "the end," even in a game with excellent endgame content, I feel the wind go out of my sails. I prolong the journey as long as I can.

To that end, since leveling is ridiculously fast in swtor, I have:
1. a level 41 imp op dps
2. a level 14 imp op healer
3. a level 26 assassin
4., 5, 6. some low level sith and a bh

and on another server
7, 8, 9, 10. a few jedi padawans and a lowbie smuggler waiting for my attention.

I do agree this alt push by BW won't work for long for many people, but not because the endgame is the only game. It will fail because many people like to focus on a main character. I'm the same, actually. I love alts, but as a side amusement. I attach myself to my main as we embark on our several-year long journey (not month long journey to the endgame).

Cut leveling times and focus only on endgame... why bother with leveling at all? Why bother with an MMO at all??



For you TL/DR types: To have a game be successful longterm, it can't rely solely on alts to keep people occupied. However, beginning middle and endgame are equally important.
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Shingara
04.23.2012 , 04:43 AM | #155
Quote: Originally Posted by Sanxxx View Post
Fair post other than the above, the current state of PvP is extremely repetitive and IMO bordering on a disgrace.
Now you see this is the type of thing i dont understand, pvp is repetative how exactly, that your playing on the same map and going up against the same mob and tactics.

Ow wait no you arnt, you maybe playing the same maps but your facing off against other players. I love my pvp as much as i love my FPS, i played BF2 right until BF3 came out, same maps for years.

Did it get repetative no, and why ? because i pvp and fps to go up against other people, to help the team win. If you think pvp is repetative then your taking the concept of player vs player in the wrong mindset.

An i really love taking down the bigmouths, last one thought he could hide but he was wrong, normally support but took out my sniper rifle, blew away the cobwebs and shot him right between the eyes, take a look at my longest headshot http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3...ats/170830019/
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oldshatterhand
04.23.2012 , 04:46 AM | #156
I hate leveling alts, don't have any higher then level 10. I just want to PvP with my main, sadly on my dead server this is only possible in the evening.

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Rayla_Felana
04.23.2012 , 04:46 AM | #157
Quote: Originally Posted by ConradLionhart View Post
Assuming your own personal experience can even be taken seriously as proof, you really think WoW has 10 million people playing now?

Your post is moot. OF COURSE there are not 1.7 million people playing everyday.
This.

People need to stop posting these pointless statements, and realise concurrent users at any one time=Amount of subscriptions.

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DalrisThane
04.23.2012 , 04:52 AM | #158
Deleted. No point. Everyone is TLDR these days. +See Sig.
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displaynamee
04.23.2012 , 04:55 AM | #159
multiple characters is something they have down to a sience..theve been doing this sorta thing for almost a decade, and have become very successful at it. whatever formula they use has been tried and tested and not changed since the beggining..your OPINION has no substance.
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Sanxxx
04.23.2012 , 04:58 AM | #160
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Fair post other than the above, the current state of PvP is extremely repetitive and IMO bordering on a disgrace.
Now you see this is the type of thing i dont understand, pvp is repetative how exactly, that your playing on the same map and going up against the same mob and tactics.

Ow wait no you arnt, you maybe playing the same maps but your facing off against other players. I love my pvp as much as i love my FPS, i played BF2 right until BF3 came out, same maps for years.

Did it get repetative no, and why ? because i pvp and fps to go up against other people, to help the team win. If you think pvp is repetative then your taking the concept of player vs player in the wrong mindset.
IMO it's you that has the wrong mindset, your multi reference to FPS shows why. This isn't an FPS it's supposedly an RPG and as such the complete lack of persistent PvP and only meaningless instances short term graftification PvP is why it is extremely repetitive I.e you repeat the same thing with the same objectives every 15 m or so.