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Do You want cross server LFG tool?

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Do You want cross server LFG tool?

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Colow_Leper
04.20.2012 , 07:01 PM | #71
Quote: Originally Posted by psandak View Post
A solution to that is to create flashpoint start points on level appropriate planets at the spaceport. But this would also require a universal general chat so players at fleet can communicate with players on a planet. You can quest and LFG for FPs and not have to spend ten minutes getting back to fleet.

To the primary topic at hand, I say no cross-server LFG tool. The reason is simple - been there done that (in WoW); was nice initially, but the lack of community consequences resulted in many bad experiences. I will say though that cross-server LFG would allow players to run FPs at off peak hours more readily.

I would wholeheartedly endorse an in-server LFG tool.
If that's what you want, then why not start a "LFG" channel - then shout about it in the fleet - within a short while you have a game wide channel - we did it on my server for 50ths - "LFG50"
Didn't we just leave this party?

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InvisiblePerson
04.20.2012 , 07:14 PM | #72
Yes.
No downside at all from my experience. Honestly, I find the whole server segregation outside of world PvP and no world PvP to be silly. I understand the necessity of it, but still find it annoying.

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Skirata_Kal
04.20.2012 , 07:16 PM | #73
Quote: Originally Posted by anedorivan View Post
A big fat NO to cross server lfg. A single server lfg is fine though.
"LFG Flashpoint X"
<sound of crickets>
"LF1M dps Operation X then gtg"
<sound of crickets>

Uh..Yea...I see a same server tool helping that...[/sarcasm] The only benefit is you don't have to switch locations to repeat the above. At least it will be a step in the right direction, but not a successful end product (though I'm sure it will be fabulous on higher pop servers). And, btw, the above examples are from a "Standard" server where there's never more than 50 on fleet during peak time (either faction).
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Psiwuff
04.20.2012 , 07:18 PM | #74
I'm very much in favor of an LFG tool, server wide would be a bonus and help low-pop servers with grouping.
Personally I barely run flashpoints during leveling, since there is no LFG channel that I heard of on our server, and running a flashpoint means stopping what you do, then going to the fleet and shouting LFG until someone notices you. THen you have to find two more people before you can go. Not what I call fun in particular.

Granted some people might argue, but I don't see the worries about how "bad players can find groups easier". From my experience, flashpoint LFG goes like "LFG flashpoint" *invite* *run game* and done. How would an LFG tool be different from that process besides automation and convenience? If someone sucks, have a kickvote just like in WoW, it worked just fine there. I barely had any bad experiences, and I did a serious amount of instances back then when the LFG tool was introduced.

All in all, it's a bonus really. It brings more people into the position to run group content, and said content gets appreciated more. It helps new players get a feel for group play, and thusly gets them hooked up for endgame, which is traditionally almost all about groups. Before I had a taste of grouping made easy by WoW, frankly I had no real interest in running group stuff in prior MMOs, simply because it was a tedium to do, and the idea of having to go through that process every day wasn't exactly my idea of fun. Plus you never get into the habit of grouping, so are even less likely to run in a group.

I acknowledge this is my personal view, and may be objectionable, but this is how I see it, I highly doubt LFG tools would ruin the game for anyone, save for a few unfortunate occurances which would happen one way or another as long as people group, period.

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Skidrowbro
04.20.2012 , 07:19 PM | #75
Quote: Originally Posted by Colow_Leper View Post
If that's what you want, then why not start a "LFG" channel - then shout about it in the fleet - within a short while you have a game wide channel - we did it on my server for 50ths - "LFG50"
And that would be the most logical solution but the biggest issue is that players have been coddled so much from having LFD/LFG in games that it's pretty much foreign to even think about looking in the chat bar. The only chat players read is the trash talk the most servers have going on in chat.

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Skirata_Kal
04.20.2012 , 07:19 PM | #76
Quote: Originally Posted by ConradLionhart View Post
No.

Cross-server will take away consequences and allow people to get away with negative behavior. It will make flashpoints a worse place.

Single-server is a good compromise.
There you go again. What consequences? "This guy is a ninja! Don't group with him!" At one time, in MMO's past, yes that did have repurcussions. No more. Now the person doing the reporting gets ridiculed. Those who don't want to use the tool don't have to. Stay in the stone age if you want, but let the rest of us play the game we're paying for.
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Qilue
04.20.2012 , 07:21 PM | #77
No, no, no and no.

All you get with cross-server LFG is cretins, baddies and ninjas. Server transfers and consolidating the population is of far greater priority.

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xQuicksilverx
04.20.2012 , 07:22 PM | #78
wow I am surprised by all the No's on the front page.

The gameplay and content is designed for the casuals. But if I want to log on and do a quick Hard mode before I go to bed, chances are i will still be looking for a healer when I run out of time.
I would like to be able to log on, click a couple buttons, and be playing something.
I know its a lot to ask, but I guess I have higher expectations of a game then most.

For all the people talking about how it breaks from immersion.. give me a break.. are you saying that posting in fleet chat for an hour with "LF1M healer for <insert FP or OP here>" is enhancing your immersion experience into SWTOR.
Come on..
Things need to be made for those that like things fast and simple, and make the people who want to make things complicated work around that.
I know people dont want to hear that.. but its the only way to compete.

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InvisiblePerson
04.20.2012 , 07:22 PM | #79
Quote: Originally Posted by Skidrowbro View Post
And that would be the most logical solution but the biggest issue is that players have been coddled so much from having LFD/LFG in games that it's pretty much foreign to even think about looking in the chat bar. The only chat players read is the trash talk the most servers have going on in chat.
And you new players are so coddled by having a universal chat, that you don't even go to same location, let alone the same screen to group with others.

Get off my lawn.

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Skirata_Kal
04.20.2012 , 07:23 PM | #80
Quote: Originally Posted by Gimixes View Post
cross server ---> NO
server ---> Maybe but not "No"

Why?...to much experience with greedy, ninja, insulting, annoying, afk and abusing peeps in Wow.
Dont want that in swtor.
Makes no sense to have it in one and not the other (and we already know it's coming for PvP)

And the behavior you describe from WoW happens in same server groups too (both in WoW and in ToR). Yes there were bad LFD groups in WoW, but there were many more good ones. The same server groups were hit and miss after spending hours in trade spamming LFG.
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