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50 active auctions on AH limit are you kidding me?

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50 active auctions on AH limit are you kidding me?

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Greyfeld
12.17.2011 , 02:20 PM | #131
Quote: Originally Posted by Raxwars View Post
i love the 50 limit. it stops ppl from putting 1 of each item, instead of stacks, ending up spamming the AH.

I hate to scroll pages and pages to reach the stacks.
Pretty much this. I have no problem with people trying to make money, but this whole "1 item per stack" garbage is just ridiculous.

I'm not going to make any assumptions about the sort of person who thinks this is acceptable, but at least take the time to consider how it affects other people. You're not the only person in the game, and if you took the time to think about other people, you might be willing to work within the limits Bioware has set to make your fortunes, rather than throwing a tantrum and demanding they change the system for your benefit.
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Putok
12.17.2011 , 02:20 PM | #132
The GTN needs a lot of work in general. The "ZOMGZ go back to WoW NUB!" posts are very pointless. People like this game, and are providing constructive criticism to help improve it. The GTN dysfunction might not be a huge issue right now, but it will be in a month or two when more people are high level. No working search interface, general clunkiness, a cap low enough to make bulk selling of goods and raw mats difficult, etc.

I think a lot of people here have never actually played the AH in WoW, based on economic exploitation comments. Me posting up 5 of every useful rare gem cut in stacks of 1 is not screwing the economy. Me posting up 20 stacks of 20 dust, along with 50 stacks of 5 dust is not screwing the economy. Me posting up a few dozen shards is not screwing the economy. Me buying a few hundred stacks of ore to prospect is not screwing the economy, in fact it's getting you your gems for a lot less money, since I can afford to drop 20k at once on a lot of ore and herbs to transmute a few stacks at far lower cost than you'd ever be able to.

Due to simple economies of scale, players like me REDUCE your costs. Someone dealing with a tenth the volume that I do will simply never be able to deliver things at the prices that I do. That is why I consistently SELL hundreds of items a day, because I bring them to market cheaper than other people do. The lousy GTN interface means that I can't do that nearly as effectively as I can in WoW, and that is not good for the health of the economy.

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Vodalus
12.17.2011 , 02:22 PM | #133
Quote: Originally Posted by Greyfeld View Post
Pretty much this. I have no problem with people trying to make money, but this whole "1 item per stack" garbage is just ridiculous.

I'm not going to make any assumptions about the sort of person who thinks this is acceptable, but at least take the time to consider how it affects other people. You're not the only person in the game, and if you took the time to think about other people, you might be willing to work within the limits Bioware has set to make your fortunes, rather than throwing a tantrum and demanding they change the system for your benefit.
The thing is, there are many cases of items that would be produced in large quantities, easily using up the 50 item limit, that are not stackable. The entire mod system was designed around the availability of large numbers of mods to make it work.
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Oriox
12.17.2011 , 02:23 PM | #134
Quote: Originally Posted by Greyfeld View Post
Pretty much this. I have no problem with people trying to make money, but this whole "1 item per stack" garbage is just ridiculous.

I'm not going to make any assumptions about the sort of person who thinks this is acceptable, but at least take the time to consider how it affects other people. You're not the only person in the game, and if you took the time to think about other people, you might be willing to work within the limits Bioware has set to make your fortunes, rather than throwing a tantrum and demanding they change the system for your benefit.
Nobody is throwing a tantrum here. Also, I might add that the system right now benefits nobody. A system where people have more access to the GTN is one that benefits everyone. As I have already said in this thread, but it appears you are too lazy to read through it and just want to come in and post the same argument I have defeated pages ago.
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Putok
12.17.2011 , 02:23 PM | #135
Quote: Originally Posted by Raxwars View Post
i love the 50 limit. it stops ppl from putting 1 of each item, instead of stacks, ending up spamming the AH.

I hate to scroll pages and pages to reach the stacks.
How about when I post up 5 of every useful gem in a go? That's a lot more than 50 items, and it does not clutter up the AH. Same for posting volatiles in stacked appropriately for the enchants they're used for (ie: stacks of 5 or 15 for water/air). I regularly post up many dozens of stacks of TWENTY dust. I frequently buy ore in stacks of 20 from sellers that put up over a hundred in a go.

I understand people posting up 500 stacks of 1 dust are really annoying, but that's not what this is about.

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Greyfeld
12.17.2011 , 02:29 PM | #136
Quote: Originally Posted by Oriox View Post
Nobody is throwing a tantrum here. Also, I might add that the system right now benefits nobody. A system where people have more access to the GTN is one that benefits everyone. As I have already said in this thread, but it appears you are too lazy to read through it and just want to come in and post the same argument I have defeated pages ago.
And it's obvious that you would rather make assumptions than just accept that somebody might have an opinion differing from yours.
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Greyfeld
12.17.2011 , 02:35 PM | #137
Quote: Originally Posted by Vodalus View Post
The thing is, there are many cases of items that would be produced in large quantities, easily using up the 50 item limit, that are not stackable. The entire mod system was designed around the availability of large numbers of mods to make it work.
As far as crafting goes, that's what re-engineering is for. There's a 50 item limit, you know there's a 50 item limit, but instead of working around that limit and making the most of your materials (by re-engineering, for example), you choose to beg Bioware to increase the auction cap.

I don't know if 50 is too low or not (when I played WoW, I never posted more than 30 or so auctions at once, but I never had a problem selling almost everything I listed), but railing against Bioware for this supposed "fail design" is more than a little silly, when it's obvious that a lot of the nay-sayers haven't even bothered to try to find work-arounds for this supposed problem yet.
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NamShub
12.17.2011 , 02:38 PM | #138
Quote: Originally Posted by Putok View Post
How about when I post up 5 of every useful gem in a go? That's a lot more than 50 items, and it does not clutter up the AH. Same for posting volatiles in stacked appropriately for the enchants they're used for (ie: stacks of 5 or 15 for water/air). I regularly post up many dozens of stacks of TWENTY dust. I frequently buy ore in stacks of 20 from sellers that put up over a hundred in a go.
You can still post crafting materials in smaller stacks but now you need to consider how long it's going to take to sell and whether that GTN slot isn't better used for something else or a stack of a different size. Selling now incorporates some level of resource management.

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I understand people posting up 500 stacks of 1 dust are really annoying, but that's not what this is about.
Actually, yes, it sort of is. Purely from an implementation perspective, limiting the number of GTN slots allows the Bioware devs to make rough estimates regarding database size and utilization which will allow them to better optimize the GTN.
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Tal-N
12.17.2011 , 02:40 PM | #139
A limit of 50 items at once. Come on now, I can name several MMOs which are far more restrictive. There is no way that you need more than the ample number you're given. If you want to sell lots of consumables, sell stacks. Discount them down more to encourage buying if you have to. I rarely see items as 1 when I have a lot of them, I sell them in packs of 2 and make it less expensive than buying them individually.

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Pythoris
12.17.2011 , 02:46 PM | #140
Quote: Originally Posted by Necrolepsy View Post
Refer to your signature.
^^This. lol