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Why do fresh 50's have the same gear as me

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Why do fresh 50's have the same gear as me

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Arkerus
04.19.2012 , 04:40 PM | #241
Quote: Originally Posted by fuzzDONTEVENTRIP View Post
Whats the huge advantage in PvP?

99% of players are BM. Full BM is attainable in a week of grinding. 2-3 if youre slow and casual + its guaranteed, not chance like the previous system. Now with new update to the WZ comm reward system, itll be even faster.

So how is there huge advantage when new PvPers are being given the same gear as everyone else on a silver platter

-fuzz
That one week is such BS. Most people don't log on EVERY SINGLE DAY. I have 2 pieces of BM since 1.2 went live. Stop pretending everyone has BM gear.
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schippo
04.19.2012 , 11:23 PM | #242
Uhhhhh... Everyone has BM gear.

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Purebliss
04.19.2012 , 11:37 PM | #243
It is ridiculous that I spent many weeks doing the daily and weekly trying to get BM commendations through a stupid RNG system. BW could have at least made BM gear cost more and not make it so easily obtainable.

It is basically like BW not caring for the time of those who grinded to get the gear.

A big spit in the face.

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Darth-Rammstein
04.20.2012 , 12:04 AM | #244
Quote: Originally Posted by ragnarz View Post
I would like to see all gear removed frm PVP. Everyone spawn in balanced equivalent gear. Voila, skill game! you can have some nice cosmetics for Valor 75, enjoy.
I would love pvp to be skill based, gear shouldn't be a factor in who wins the fight.
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Xinika
04.20.2012 , 12:07 AM | #245
Quote: Originally Posted by haydenfisher View Post
3 days is long enough to farm for gear, some of us have lives.
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ThorgrimLutgen
04.20.2012 , 12:23 AM | #246
Quote: Originally Posted by haydenfisher View Post
3 days is long enough to farm for gear, some of us have lives.
I am looking forward to my credit bought full Rakata set so I can do nightmare operations with little experience in them.

Or is that not the same thing?

PVE'ers who want to try their hand at PVP, I truly do welcome you, we all want more people playing our side of the game. How do you feel about me being able to buy the same PVE gear you have worked for over 4 months though? Pretty sure I know the answer.

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Kanana
04.20.2012 , 01:21 AM | #247
Quote: Originally Posted by DarkHelsing View Post
Having PvP be about the gear instead of the player is the biggest failure done to pvp by so many mmo's, and it will be the failure to swtor if they don't change it.

Bioware listen, gear is about customization and looks. The ability to customize your character to fit your exact play style and looks, your game is setup to do that with all the gear that is editable.

The second you introduce disparity in your gear with stats like Expertise, is the second you tell your players that it doesn't matter how well or poorly they play, it only matters how long they grind. That's just stupid and an insult to the people that want to actually play the game, not just have the power to faceroll newbies because their gear allows them to compensate for lack of any type of actual skill or effort.

Any real PvPer will tell you that they'd rather PvP stark-naked than allow a disparity gap be created from poorly implemented PvP gear!
Without expertise you'd have to PvE raid to do well in PvP. Expertise is a great and needed addition to make sure people are not forced to pve to pvp. What is needed is to make sure everyone can get the needed expertise gear quickly and cheaply, so PvP is easy and fun to enter.

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Kanana
04.20.2012 , 01:26 AM | #248
Quote: Originally Posted by ThorgrimLutgen View Post
I am looking forward to my credit bought full Rakata set so I can do nightmare operations with little experience in them.

Or is that not the same thing?

PVE'ers who want to try their hand at PVP, I truly do welcome you, we all want more people playing our side of the game. How do you feel about me being able to buy the same PVE gear you have worked for over 4 months though? Pretty sure I know the answer.
PvP depends on players to provide the content, so it's imperative that anyone who wants to pvp can do so easily and without trouble, which means getting gear must be easy.

PvE too will face the same question sooner or later: Make getting the gear easier, or see the number of new and returning players dwindle since the gear grind is too long to catch up to current top tier.

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AKfourtyseven
04.20.2012 , 01:28 AM | #249
Quote: Originally Posted by schippo View Post
I freaking hate this gear system.

People hit 50 and 3 days later have full battlemaster. What's the sense in being equal to a fresh 50 when I've busted my *** getting valor lvl 75?

I'd love to see 60 valor required for BM and 70 for war hero gear, seems fair to me.

edit: just thought i'd put my thoughts out there, kthx.
I never saw the problem with BM requiring valour rank 60, but those days are gone and arent coming back.

Just one point for you however. My guild re-rolled on a new server. I hit 50 at the weekend (Friday) and im currently in full BM and am rank 60 valour. So "fresh" 50s are still going to be wearing the same gear as you, if they are serious about PvP.

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jolleebindu
04.20.2012 , 01:32 AM | #250
Quote: Originally Posted by schippo View Post
I freaking hate this gear system.

People hit 50 and 3 days later have full battlemaster. What's the sense in being equal to a fresh 50 when I've busted my *** getting valor lvl 75?

I'd love to see 60 valor required for BM and 70 for war hero gear, seems fair to me.

edit: just thought i'd put my thoughts out there, kthx.
that would require like 72 hrs of straight pvp

also, BM gear is the new 2nd tier gear

how long did it take you to get your champion gear? because that is what BM is now
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