Tank Assassins (and Shadows) are ruining PvP.

how?

You have snare, force pull, stuns, stealth, vanish and the one thing that would help us accomplish this, force speed.

We can ae knockback, lol, you have immunity up.

why do we have immunity up ?!?!?! You mean we can time a 5 sec resilience sjust to interupt your faster animation kb? What a scrub.

we can lift, lol, you have immunity up.

most sorcs in madness run instant cast?!?! How do i immunity an instant cast unless i get lucky?? Nother scrub response that sounds like you cast these things while the resilience buff is up.

we can stun, lol, now we have no counter for your uninerrubtle lightning that heals you for 9%.

why didn't you save the stun for the first tkt channel? Its going to take 15m range and min 5 gcds to get tkt to heal. What were you doing that you needed to stun before this? Scrub play.

we can, every 9 seconds, root you for 2 seconds. While we are perma-snared.

root is epic if timed right. You also have force speed scrub. Our snare is either 30% perma or 50% on a cooldown lowering dps all the while dots ticking on us.

stop diluting the argument with fabrications.

stop enhancing your own with your baddie play calls and substitutions for common sense ability use.

It's true, they have CD's on those abilities.

Do you think we do not?

I dunno... if any class can do it it's sorc don't you think? It's not like they are perma-immune to your KBs and levitate. It's got like a ~40 second CD and it only lasts for ~5 seconds (I don't play my assassin enough to remember exact durations, forgive me). The heal isn't spammable, it's a proc. I mean I'm sure it would be hard to kite them but honestly I feel like sorcs probably have the best shot at it.

LMFAO
Only a non-good Tankassin can't absolutely manhandle a DPS sage/sorc.

I dunno... if any class can do it it's sorc don't you think? It's not like they are perma-immune to your KBs and levitate. It's got like a ~40 second CD and it only lasts for ~5 seconds (I don't play my assassin enough to remember exact durations, forgive me). The heal isn't spammable, it's a proc. I mean I'm sure it would be hard to kite them but honestly I feel like sorcs probably have the best shot at it.

Optimal setup for 3 stacks would be Wither X 2 + Shock + FL = 129 Force, which requires 12.4s of regen. Due to Wither getting out of sync after your first FL you'll probably need more time than this in realistic scenarios.

On the other hand you can do a 2 stack HD every 7.5s for about 30 seconds before you run out, and most fights are over by then.

There's a huge difference in the time it takes to setup 3 stacks and 2 stacks because the third stack forces you to either wait for another full CD on one ofy our HD generator or burn through Force hoping Energize would proc.

In the training dummy scenario, a 9600 3 stack lightning would do 8229 damage with 2 stacks, and you can throw out two of them in the time it takes you to setup 1X3 stack. Well Recklessness won't be up for your second FL, but the total damage done is still far more than saving up for the one big boom.

Oh, so you mean that 3 players can hard-counter 1 player? Genius. You're just as bad at logic as you are at playing sins.

*** is this embarrassment you keep posting!!

You don't need to get into KB range against Sorcs except for Assassinate, and pure Madness builds won't have bubble blind or root KB and plain KBs can't put 10m of distance between the two.

The fact that you're fighting a dot heavy spec means their instant Whirlwind most likely won't have any effect on you (it gets broken by their own dot).. You Force Speed out of the first root, and after that you usually are low enough on Force that getting CCed doesn't actually matter (CC only hurts you if you still have Force left to use), or just fire off a FL while you get rooted (can't move while casting anyway).

First of all, with force shroud up, that sorc/sage in't going to being doing much except hoping to survive the initial burst, since that tankassin is immune.

If the sage is alive after that point, you think that the sage DPS is going to win the fight?

More likely the sage is going to survive long enough to get a friend to kill the tankassin.

And by the way, i play both classes, on my sin, sorcs are easy, the other way around I don't kill tankassins, but I know them well enough to survive them or HELP kill them, but 1x1, forget it.