The end of the arguement. Is SWTOR in decline? Can it be saved?

me to

I was in closed beta and there was not a out pouring of requests for more sandbox
Just the normal 1% posting over and over and over the same thing

What was being said coming outta beta was
- no end game content
- bad pvp
- no legacy
- need more socialization and interaction
- lots of complaints about UI (never mattered to me honestly but the complaints were there)
- game losses its gloss and shine once you hit 50

Those were the main ones I remember.

Mostly it was the lack of end game content (which is why people claiming they got 30 days because they found out when they leveled to 50 there was no end game content baffle me. EVERYONE was telling them this before retail even hit that there was none), UI customization, lack of socialization (game played like a solo player game).

Sandbox stuff was few and far between in beta and always ended up same way

Player 1 : SWG blah blah blah, need more sand box
Player 2-3-4-5-6-7: SWG sucked and this isnt SWG2
and on it went from there till you just learned to tune it all out.

I mean if you intentionally spoke to other SWG fans then I guess you could claim there was a majority asking but thats pretty closed minded to do that and then buy into it as majority request

me to

I was in closed beta and there was not a out pouring of requests for more sandbox
Just the normal 1% posting over and over and over the same thing

What was being said coming outta beta was
- no end game content
- bad pvp
- no legacy
- need more socialization and interaction
- lots of complaints about UI (never mattered to me honestly but the complaints were there)
- game losses its gloss and shine once you hit 50

Those were the main ones I remember.

Mostly it was the lack of end game content (which is why people claiming they got 30 days because they found out when they leveled to 50 there was no end game content baffle me. EVERYONE was telling them this before retail even hit that there was none), UI customization, lack of socialization (game played like a solo player game).

Sandbox stuff was few and far between in beta and always ended up same way

Player 1 : SWG blah blah blah, need more sand box
Player 2-3-4-5-6-7: SWG sucked and this isnt SWG2
and on it went from there till you just learned to tune it all out.

And guess what?

-There's still no 'working' end game content.
-There's still no 'good' pvp rather it's BioWare giving out rewards to people who didn't work to win in a Warzone.
-Legacy is one big grind.
-What interaction? No one interacts with one another due to how the game is set up.
-The UI still doesn't work right.
-It loses it way before 50, I'd say level 30 is when the game gets old.

And what have we gotten? Yay we got an event that if you look at the forums it's clear that people want said event removed! And chances are people wonder why the TOR forums are more about how great Diablo 3, Guild Wars 2, Tera and Secret World are.

To me death of a MMORPG is when it can not meet the expected market! The predicted sales.

I only remember SWG as a game where I stood standing around waiting for something pre NGE...Post -NGE it was empty, much more empty than SWTOR. EvE was much more fun compared to SWG.

But, that's okay. The game is obviously dying because of these reasons.

I have screen from december with a queue for my server arround 5 hours but what does this change? Even with event on any server hardly hit "Heavy". At the beggining of this event, day 1, there was like hundreds of people and I even had 3 minutes queue to my server. Today it's even hard to get Ops for world bossess on Tatooine. I play on most crowded server EU. Most of the time there's just dead silence. It's even hard to find someone to do flashpoint since all in the fleet just constant queue Warzones or AFK.