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The end of the arguement. Is SWTOR in decline? Can it be saved?

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The end of the arguement. Is SWTOR in decline? Can it be saved?

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Jett-Rinn
04.21.2012 , 09:16 AM | #901
Quote: Originally Posted by Tyraelium View Post
An employee making a statement is not exactly empirical evidence...if you want some empirical evidence...take a look at EA stock...went from $61 a share to $16 a share. EA was recently voted as the "worst company in America", behind BP and Haliburton. A recent article also stated that they just laid off 9% of their workforce as well. They recently had to change nearly their entire board as the past members left EA to join Zynga.
The overall stock price of a mega corp isn't indicative of how one branch is doing...Activision isn't doing that great either yet Blizzard is doing okay despite recent layoffs which BioWare (not talking EA I'm talking BioWare specifically) hasn't had. Also I addressed EA winning a straw poll and how that is more shameful to us as a society than anything else.
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Jett-Rinn
04.21.2012 , 09:20 AM | #902
Quote: Originally Posted by Uzziel View Post
Well Jett your doing the same thing but telling everybody how this game is best in class in the MMO world. Why not just hush up let there stock report tell us what is really happen with this game/company instead of going back in forth like your doing now.

If yea want to know how good ea is doing well lets log in to scottrade and type in EA.. OK this is what I see

Electronic Arts (NASDAQ:EA) traded today at a new 52-week low of $14.64
(Second Opinion Weekly) Rating Downgrade -2 days ago. Down to a big fat 0 AVOID
You mean stop disagreeing with you so you can hate more?

No thanks.

Also I don't believe that this is the best MMO in it's class I have had many complaints and have stated them loudly (ask Georg Zoller if you don't believe me) I just think the campaign of hate is a bit suspect. I also never said that EA didn't have issues as a company but BioWare is juts one branch of that company and I think what is going on here is EA haters sticking it to BioWare just because they are part of EA.
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Dezzi
04.21.2012 , 09:28 AM | #903
Quote: Originally Posted by Jett-Rinn View Post
You mean stop disagreeing with you so you can hate more?

No thanks.

Also I don't believe that this is the best MMO in it's class I have had many complaints and have stated them loudly (ask Georg Zoller if you don't believe me) I just think the campaign of hate is a bit suspect. I also never said that EA didn't have issues as a company but BioWare is juts one branch of that company and I think what is going on here is EA haters sticking it to BioWare just because they are part of EA.
So because they disagree with you, they're haters? What does that make you?

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Jett-Rinn
04.21.2012 , 09:41 AM | #904
Quote: Originally Posted by Dezzi View Post
So because they disagree with you, they're haters? What does that make you?

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Uzziel
04.21.2012 , 09:46 AM | #905
Quote: Originally Posted by Jett-Rinn View Post
and I think what is going on here is EA haters sticking it to BioWare just because they are part of EA.
Well Jett-Rinn to the normal Joe and Susie BioWare is EA and there one in the same. Look at it like this.

BioWare is a big fat healthy pig, EA really wants some pork chops, Ea slaughters, chops in to many parts,then consumes Bioware so now there one in the same. Ea then move on to slaughter and consume something else. In the end it is about EA as we are playing EA games.
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Aberration
04.21.2012 , 09:54 AM | #906
Quote: Originally Posted by Blavatsky View Post
My advice is this.

Play out the remaining time on your cancelled accounts and then move on to something better.

Learn to play an instrument
Finish that degree
Get to know those children you sired
Read a book .

Anything.

I believe MMO ends here, this is the end of the Road. The dust has settled ...

We, all of us , see what MMO is by now. A monumental waste of time.

There is a bigger prize waiting for you , invest in YOU not some fictional avatar.

heed the word or not you must admit the basic truth.

The time you devote here awards you one thing and one thing only.

wasted time


When you are on your deathbed will you utter in your dying breath " I wish I spent more time in MMO"

Leave SWTOR

Return To Life
Not all of us are die hard players. I have been playing since early access and I have yet a lvl 50. I imagine there are many people stranded out on the dying worlds. That would all continue to play given the chance to transfer characters. It should be free, and freely available. If the name exists on another server, just prompt to change the dang name. Losing your name is a lot easier to deal with than having to redo the all the content.

And that IMO is what is going to kill this game. No server transfers. I have been playing for months now to get my toons to where they are. Sure it may seem simple to forum commandos and die hard players to just roll another server and grind it to 50 in no time.

Me? Its going to take 3 months or more to get 35. I don't want to be doing the same content over. Again.

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Malynn
04.21.2012 , 09:55 AM | #907
I've been playing MMOs a long time (UO and WoW). Rumors of games deaths are always constant. Yet both MMOs continue(d) for years!

I played each game because I enjoyed them. I stopped playing when I no longer enjoyed them. I didn't stop because of rumors of a game's premature death. If I took forum rumors seriously, I wouldn't play a game more than a day or so.

I am thoroughly enjoying Star Wars. I hope they continue for more than the 10 years they've planned.

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Marrond
04.21.2012 , 10:04 AM | #908
Quote: Originally Posted by Malynn View Post
I've been playing MMOs a long time (UO and WoW). Rumors of games deaths are always constant. Yet both MMOs continue(d) for years!
You've got the point but you missed one important thing. UO and WoW were fresh when they showed up. SWTOR is basically copy-pasta of WoW mechanics in general (sometimes it looks even like a skinpack for WoW...) - the mechanics that is old and a lot of people starting to disliking it (guess why WoW loses now subs rapidly and Blizz is offering free D3 and Tyrael's Mount in exchange for 1 year WoW subs?)


And don't get me wrong, I'm not the hater, just experienced MMO player in general. Also I won't leave SWTOR as long as there will be enough people to have fun with, despite I hate that rubbish WoW-like mechanic. I love SW universe and love is blind

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DevonDs
04.21.2012 , 10:25 AM | #909
Quote: Originally Posted by Jett-Rinn View Post
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Thanks for using the word snazzy. Definitely made me smile.
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Kalfear
04.21.2012 , 10:51 AM | #910
Quote: Originally Posted by Jett-Rinn View Post
So I notice we have the same five or six people posting over and over again how the game is fail on this thread and have been doing so for days.....meanwhile most of the servers are still standard or heavy despite the Diablo II open weekend and the open Tera beta.

In further reading it's been pretty much proven time and again that the OP's statements are false, and his links are bogus misinformation as Daniel Erickson just said two days ago that the population hasn't dropped.

But yeah; doom, fail...The sky!!! she's a falling!!!!!!!

lol yeah cause that jamie guy and 2-3 others (who have like 5 -10 posts pro TOR for every individual post you refer to as fail (while experienced players refer to as mostly constructive critism)) not spaming the tread with the same 3 lines over and over in favor of TOR!

In reading this thread its pretty clear you seeing what you wanting to see and nothing else.
In regards to lessening F2P and Preferred restrictions
In GAMING, as in LIFE,
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No game restriction is so dire that $15.00/month will not eliminate it