The end of the arguement. Is SWTOR in decline? Can it be saved?

QFT!! Love that article! So true! Hahahah!

The game isnt' dying. What people are seeing on the servers isn't people leaving, is less people playing concurrently. It's the typical (as in every single MMO ever made) "launch surge/dropoff" of playtime that gives the illusion of loss of subs.

Incidentally, the number of subs for TOR has only been increasing, not declining.

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QFT!! Love that article! So true! Hahahah!

The game isnt' dying. What people are seeing on the servers isn't people leaving, is less people playing concurrently. It's the typical (as in every single MMO ever made) "launch surge/dropoff" of playtime that gives the illusion of loss of subs.

Incidentally, the number of subs for TOR has only been increasing, not declining.

What people are looking for in an MMO doesnt exist after you have played one before. Think back to when you first stepped into your first MMO, the feeling that youre apart of something massive and you get sucked into the universe right away.

That feeling just doesnt exist anymore if youve played MMO for a while. There isnt enough fresh blood to come in after WoW people got theyr dose of MMO. Alot of people try out new MMO's that are coming out to look for the "first MMO experience again" but it just isnt there.

The reason WoW is still 10million+ is just because it has a community, people that have played with eachother for a long time becoming good friends and wont quit because of theyr friends/guildies. SWTOR doesnt have that yet, thus its easy to leave.

I think that unless MMOs are put on hold for a good 4-5 years, we will never see another giant like WoW again. The market is filled up.

I agree 100%. Many of my friends won't leave wow because of how much time they have invested and they have a a deep rooted community. I think BW has done a great job pulling some of those players, but they have a lot to over come. When you spent thousands of hours in a game, you won't want to give it up. I know after all the time, I've spent in swtor, I don't want to leave or start another character. It's a investment, I'm not willing to leave, but I do want the ability to pay for faction and server switches.

i'm not hopping on the "this game is dying" train , the game is new and theres room for improvement...that said , i still want the dude that designed the endgame armor for sages to be fired , the goal is to look cooler when you progress through content ,and not look like you just jumped out of a forest living on berries and nuts for 13 years.