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The end of the arguement. Is SWTOR in decline? Can it be saved?

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The end of the arguement. Is SWTOR in decline? Can it be saved?

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faymar
04.19.2012 , 07:05 AM | #541
Quote: Originally Posted by Avatarless View Post
TERA open beta is this weekend and the company developing it seem to know what fun is about:

http://tera.enmasse.com/news/posts/o...st-patch-notes

P.S: Please give my Agent her giggle back!
Tera is fine if you are into Raid or die or Chris Hansen specials, It's vast legal problem aside I just don't think it will put much of a dent in TOR's subscriber base, and when I say subscribers not the QQ brigade that purchased the game just to cry on the forums.

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Solo_Han
04.19.2012 , 07:18 AM | #542
Quote: Originally Posted by Maniigoldo View Post
i stop there.
enjoy your 1 pixel game farmville
By stopping there, you simply prove the rest of my post, and make me lose hope in the future of the industry... I encourage you to read it, but if you want to act like a child, then so be it.

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Devlonir
04.19.2012 , 07:24 AM | #543
Quote: Originally Posted by Tsaritsin View Post
Complete silence on everything it would seem, but they find it perfectly ok to talk about the problems on 3rd party sites, yet refuse point blank to talk to their PAYING customers on the forums, I find that highly insulting tbh.
*points to weekly community Q&A and Dev tracker posted just above the forums of this very website*

Sorry, didn't read the rest of your post. But Bioware does communicate with their user base, not by putting silly blue responses somewhere as some other games but by weekly 'blog posts' so to speak to answer to problems that are put forward by the community.

Performance has been answered before, and they keep tweaking it as is so often said. And almost every other problem except server sizes has been answered in the past. They take their time and answer when there is something to answer, not giving useless informations or soon(tm) comments when there is basicly nothing to say yet.
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Solo_Han
04.19.2012 , 07:33 AM | #544
Quote: Originally Posted by Devlonir View Post
Sorry, didn't read the rest of your post. But Bioware does communicate with their user base, not by putting silly blue responses somewhere as some other games but by weekly 'blog posts' so to speak to answer to problems that are put forward by the community.
You would really rather get a weekly blog post, than daily interaction with developers? Really?

If so, can I ask why?

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Rabrac
04.19.2012 , 07:35 AM | #545
LOL. Didn't BF3 sell 5 million units in its first week? Unless they sold it for under 3$ then that article is an utter lie. Nothing to see here...

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Kurfer
04.19.2012 , 08:58 AM | #546
The problem is this game still sits in the dark ages of MMO's...raid finders and group finders are a must. Most people don't even bother with PvE anymore. It's just not good design to have people wait around for a healer/tank for hours esp for a FP/Op that is so out of whack in balance it's sick.

The new FP has virtually no reward for the difficulty of the second boss, it's not a L2P issue it's a pop issue. It's hard to get 4 decent geared players let alone 4 GOOD players for a group these days.

Even being in a guild that in my eyes is one of the largest on the server (25 members online usually) there are only maybe 3-4 healers/tanks and the weekly/daily limits does not promote team play.

With the abortion of class balance in pvp 1.2 ALL of our healers respecced to DPS and since we have another dark ages element in having no dual-spec feature people won't respecc for pve/pvp role changes.

Mark my words, this game will be forced to server merge in 3 months...the global pop will be so low they won't have the money from EA to maintain the amount of servers they have.

The great thing about thick headed dev's, reality never supports their insane agenda.

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Vagessel
04.19.2012 , 09:15 AM | #547
Quote: Originally Posted by Avatarless View Post
TERA open beta is this weekend and the company developing it seem to know what fun is about:

http://tera.enmasse.com/news/posts/o...st-patch-notes

P.S: Please give my Agent her giggle back!
I actually laughed out hard. Thanks for the jollies. Yes, jiggling and breast physics can be fun ... for 5 minutes. They don't hold subscriptions month after month. It's going to be a nice little niche game - with a substantial population of ERPers, but mentioning it in a thread about SWTOR is about as inane as that one comparing STO to SWTOR.

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Kurfer
04.19.2012 , 09:20 AM | #548
Quote: Originally Posted by Vagessel View Post
I actually laughed out hard. Thanks for the jollies. Yes, jiggling and breast physics can be fun ... for 5 minutes. They don't hold subscriptions month after month. It's going to be a nice little niche game - with a substantial population of ERPers, but mentioning it in a thread about SWTOR is about as inane as that one comparing STO to SWTOR.
Game looks good but let's face it, for US players it's an asian MMO with an asian grind. It won't last and will be just like all the rest (Aion, Lineage II)...

Plus it has that odd looking pedo style little girl character. They should setup an internet task force that tracks the habits of the people who choose that type of character to learn more about how predators and pedos interact online.

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iceperson
04.19.2012 , 09:20 AM | #549
Quote: Originally Posted by Vagessel View Post
I actually laughed out hard. Thanks for the jollies. Yes, jiggling and breast physics can be fun ... for 5 minutes. They don't hold subscriptions month after month. It's going to be a nice little niche game - with a substantial population of ERPers, but mentioning it in a thread about SWTOR is about as inane as that one comparing STO to SWTOR.
tera will corner the pedo market.

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DepecheNova
04.19.2012 , 11:14 AM | #550
I'll throw my 2 cents in. Imo they keep it running and take your cash, while promising to fix said issues (everone knows what they are). I un subbed because of 1.2. They promised that it would change mmo's forever & that it would be ground breaking. I tracked this game for years hoping that it would be the game changer , they said that they'd do away with kill ten of these ten of those. That the crafting sytem would be worth it & that the sytem that they were gonna bring in made it easier for guilds and groups to operate.
The legacy system i waited soo long for is terrible. So we waited in vein from beta testing hoping that the very basic's would be fixed and for months they dangeled a scabby carrot in our faces . I have been gaming mmo's since 96
and was shocked to see the game in the state it was in upon release. The very basic things in mmo's that people expect weren't there. Simple things like lfg system (even though i cant stand pug's) i would have used the system, because thats what was needed. I was in a good guild not on a heavy server , but in the beginning like everyone else we plugged away and got our numbers up and we raided and cleared 95% of the content, hoping that 1.2 would be the answer to diminishing numbers on our server. The game is dying for a good reason, beacuse people were sold a lie. Once people did all the raiding they saw the game for exactly what it was unfinished. U cant bring in new content and not address the major issues at hand, hoping that people will stay with u through this (Testing) Phase. Thats what i saw it as, and am not paying good money to something thats broken . Maybe in a year or so when they have enough content and the bugs are fixed maybe just maybe people might return. But i cant see it happening as games like GW2 will change the way mmo's are made.
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