The end of the arguement. Is SWTOR in decline? Can it be saved?

Well I've been unsubbed since April 12, and so far I haven't seen any of the free time. Not the 30 days, nor the 1 days. My time has run out as of yesterday. So I dunno, this is probably just another PR stunt on their part or they screwed something up again.

No. Might want to read this from which comes this:

We've also got another significant piece of good news: everyone will have until April 22nd at noon CDT (5:00pm GMT - click here for a time zone converter) to have a Level 50 character or Legacy Level 6 on their account to get 30 days of game time on us. (Your 30 days of game time will be applied to your account on April 25th by 11:59pm CDT.) Players will now have multiple options, as well as more time, to try and reach these goals and play all the great new content in Game Update 1.2

Boy, people are so quick to believe the worst.

FWIW, just got the email about the pet a couple hours back.

Also, for the 30 days you need to have an active recurring subscription. Saying you unsubbed automatically disqualifies you for the 30 days.

Sorry mate.

I missed that. Thank you for pointing that out.

Here is what was actually said:

"As John stated, we have sold through 2 million units of the game since December. We currently have a little over 1.7 million active subscribers. The rest have either not started playing yet or have opted out. This is an outstanding start for an MMO, and the metrics on engagement suggest players are loving the game." [Frank Gibeau, President EA Labels, February 1, 2012]

What does this mean in plain English?

1. The gap of 300,000 includes both players that have opted out of a subscription and players who never started. There are a number of reasons for the latter: Lack of time, change of plans, hardware incompatibilies, etc. I personally have a bunch of games that I owned for quite some time before I started playing them. The fact is that there is no information on what share of the 300,000 opted out and what share never started playing.

2. Practically all MMOs include 30 days of play with the purchase of the game. Enjoyment of games is highly subjective. Just as there are many players who don't play single-player games to completion, there will be players who, for whatever reason, are not sufficiently attracted to a particularl MMO to keep subscribing. Assuming, for argument's sake, that all 300,000 consist of players who opted out, this still represents a capture rate of 85%, which is deemed excellent for an MMO.

Well you and the gentleman above me can credit BioWare themselves for misinformation then.

http://www.reddit.com/r/swtor/commen...vel_50_legacy/

Do a search for Stephen Reid's name and you'll find he had posted there with information regarding people who had unsubbed but still having days remaining on their account.


That and there's people claiming left and right that they've already received their game time. Some say they already got their 30 days, other say they got their free 1 day.

I've gotten neither. The former, understandable despite the inaccurate information mess, the latter not quite so.

Today was my last day, 2 accounts now cancelled, 1.2 destroyed my pvp fun. (no i don't play a healer either lol)

Great work BW, looks like those EA staff who will find they are made redundant, can thank you lot in some way lol

Sleep well tonight, i know I will as i am still employed, maybe thats because I listen to my customers.

And as you leave, 5 more new accoutns have subscribed

have a nice day

Lol ditto.

0 days left on mine, I did it just in the nick of time

Really? You have some proof of that? Some evidence to suggest that for everyone 1 unsub 5 more new players sub? Or I guess this is that "90% of all statistics are made up on the spot" .... lol