The end of the arguement. Is SWTOR in decline? Can it be saved?

Anyone who thinks this game is doing well is just lying to himself.

Population in zones and fleet has been nothing but declining since launch.
Everybody rerolling on hig populated servers is because all the other servers are doing great?
I suppose that friend invites and free days are not being given because the game is doing great.
Neither is EA stock plummeting because SWTOR is selling like hotcakes.

I support that somebody finds this game interesting and fun, but that person has to realize, there are more and more people everyday who do not share such opinion.

P.S. Using my posting privilege before my sub ends today

actually the only thing important is whether you like the game or not, I for myself could care less about how much money somebody makes selling the game. ea is obviously not learning.
after breathing down every developers neck threatening them with their jobs and wondering afterwards where the creativity went, now we (the customers) are the next target for exploitation,
I believe they leave the devs at BW pretty much alone, but day1 dlc's forcing origin upon us (I bet richard garriot is really really sad that the name of his old company is used for that abomination).
they are squeezing us, they think they can get away with just about anything.... well obviously they cannot. I really hope the crowd funded games like double fines adventure or wasteland2 will set a good example for the future and I bet after the millions raised from crowd funding publishers like EA and activision (who are left out of this) are already making plans on how to reach out for that kind of funds.

What do you mean by "another dump"? Do you have any evidence that the subscription numbers have declined at all? All the data provided by EA and BioWare indicates that subscriptions have remained steady.

This... see you next game; and, you'd have to be BLIND to not see most servers are already dead. I'm in the same boat as you, used that money towards my GW2 pre-order. EA thinks we're all idiots and that we're going to give them more $, nice try, come again.

Those of us who enjoy the game have never said that we expect every other player to also enjoy it. We understand that taste in games is subjective. What we have said is that your lack of enjoyment of SWTOR doesn't mean that the game is dying.

Exactly how I feel. There have been several MMOs that I thought were, well, I won't use the language I thought here yet others thought they were the best thing since sliced bread. I just shrugged and moved on.

This game is nowhere near "dying". It's fluctuating as all new MMOs do, and it will seek its level in time. Those who keep braying that it's dying are indulging themselves in "prophecy" and they are going to be wrong. Whilst I doubt this game will ever come close to the level of subs that WoW has...who cares (well, aside from EA/BW, I'm sure they would have been happy had that happened ).

The game simply has to be profitable. That's it. So long as that happens (and I'm pretty sure it will) then these assertions of "death" are moot.

The first statements were that the game had sold a little over 2 million copies. January runs around, we hear "1.7 million subscribers" in other words, 300k people dropped subscription right away. That's a significant loss right after the first month (the free month).

I've played these types of games since the early EQ days, so I know that sometimes it simply takes time to develop a good product. Why does this trend continue? I don't know enough about these types of businesses to really have a solid grasp on why they typically have poor launches.

My guild and I are playing this for now, but we're also excited to give Guild Wars 2 a try in the next couple of weeks (hopefully). Assuming the game is worth a damn, for no monthly fee, it'll take some really big changes for me to dump $15 a month to stick around SWTOR.

That, I'm still bitter that they haven't bothered to say a single word about removing the Party Instigator. It's a crappy little social item, but business practices like that makes me wonder what vending machine their decision makers got their degrees from.

While I really dislike WoW overall, they've set some industry standards that are widely accepted as 'good ideas' and seem to be desired by most gamers. As to why BW didn't plan for these types of things or bring them into the fold early on is mind boggling.

all a free month for me as I intended on staying anyhow. Thanks bioware

oh and

FOR ACTIVE SUBSCRIBERS OF STAR WARS™: THE OLD REPUBLIC™ ("SWTOR") AS OF APRIL 12, 2012, 12:00PM CDT, 5:00PM GMT OR AS OF APRIL 21, 2012, 12:00PM CDT, 5:00PM GMT

please note the use of OR rather than AND. Sorry for caps was a cut and paste from the email

I'll believe it when I see that my account becomes reactivated when they roll out that promotion. But to me, having it start right after 3month subscriptions end screams bait and damage control. Otherwise, why wouldn't they just credit all level 50/legacy level 6 characters with active subscriptions on the date of the 1.2 patch with 30 days on their current subscription.. rather than delaying it past a point when subscriptions could possibly drop?