The end of the arguement. Is SWTOR in decline? Can it be saved?

In my view, they've done one thing really well, and that's to craft an interesting and engaging interactive story. They should capitalize on that and be cranking that material out crazy fast (biweekly at an absolute minimum).

Now, if they want to be an MMO with a long-term, deeply invested community, they need to give the tools to the community builders to make that happen. If you allow people to build communities, they will stick with you for years, if not decades.

I'm not holding my breath. I don't think the situation is dire, by any stretch, but I question the game's staying power in the long term.

I did my research, SWTOR is losing subs 5 months after its launch and EAs stock is dropping. If the lay offs happen this game will remain profitable in the same way Warhammer is currently profitable. No new development and a skeleton staff keeping the game running. If you think were going to see new development on a game with less then one million subs you're either an idiot or a blind fanboi. Either way there's no point debating it with you.

Having trouble breaking light capacity? Lol wut?

When I log in most of them are listed as Standard. With a few heavy and light.

This game isn't even going to begin to die while the market is still churning out the same old medieval fantasy MMO after medieval fantasy MMO. You have no evidence, and most of the stuff you said is moot because they already said this game will continue to be profitable even if it drops below 1 million subscribers.

It's currently the best sci-fi MMO on the market and it's Star Wars to boot. It has a very solid playerbase of people who are tired of killing orcs and goblins.

So until something that caters to a similar playerbase comes out that can rival SWTOR's quality, this game is going to thrive. The MMO bandwagon jumpers will switch games every 4 months in search of their "perfect" MMO, but the strong Star Wars IP and story-drivenness holds a huge appeal to some that a little bit of PvP imbalance isn't going to shake.

Except that the CEO of the company LITERALLY SAYS THEY WILL REMAIN PROFITABLE with less than 1 million subs. Do your *********** research. If the game remains profitable they'll keep making content. Your absolutely correct theirs no point in debating it with you because you have NO EVIDENCE. Just because it takes blizzard 10 mil subs and 6-8 months to release content does not mean thats natural law. Rift does more with less. I expect swtor to do the same.

Also this thread title is misleading. This argument will never end. A year from now it will still be going on.

Thanks for the lecture from the high horse but the key word in my post was not heavy it was "standard." As in, "there are far more standard pop servers than light. It was in response to a post that stated most servers were dead which was inaccurate.

Much like your assumption about my education.

LOL, GW2 forums are worse than B on a friday night, no joke, you will find no greater hive of scum and villainy, they make SWTOR Gen look like eden.

What he said.

How can anything be worse than the TOR forum? Aren't we considered to be the lowest of the low?

GW2 beta started in DECEMBER, the beta started before SWTOR even released. The non-NDA semi-open beta starts at the end of this month, but closed beta has been ongoing for nearly 5 months. You have no idea what you're talking about.