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The end of the arguement. Is SWTOR in decline? Can it be saved?

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The end of the arguement. Is SWTOR in decline? Can it be saved?

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Duhakalock
04.16.2012 , 03:48 PM | #191
Quote: Originally Posted by CrunkShizzle View Post
alot of people arent intelligent on these forums

i feel sorry for the people who dont play video games who have stock or whatever in bioware.must be a shame to have a bunch of spoiled whiney brats ruin your investment because of some minor problems in a video game

the funny thing is though,you watch.i bet the same bunch who are whining about stuff in sw tor will do the same in guild wars 2,tera,and chances are they did the same in world of warcraft
This guy is right.

Heres an experiment, Get on your facebook and go to some game devolopers page, On some big announcement there will almost always be a bunch of complainers, ALMOST ALWAYS.

The internet now a days, Its so bad. Maybe im getting older? But the kids that never knew what It was like without the internet are getting on the web in swarms. Related? I know...

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unseenmaji
04.16.2012 , 03:48 PM | #192
Quote: Originally Posted by Morpheous View Post
Why do we always have to have a discussion about how SWTOR can be saved because some Hack Journalist writes about rumors? I could care less what the hack gaming media has to say about anything. Why? Because they are all idiots.
Those whom have insider information know that some investors have actually pulled out, so EA is considering downsizing the team and working on their next project than throwing more money and getting more loss. There is a major problem in subscriptions, when the subs which people have now run out the ones which arnt active cause dont find game worth logging in it going to drop by a huge number and EA is aware of that, with coming games coming out it also going to drop, estimations behind close doors is less than 400k subs by mid year, there is some last ditch efforts taking place like throwing in a exploding char patch to appeal to the lesser minded people whom can be distracted by such ploys but the deeper thinkers dont fall for it.

They truly when decided to give the 30 days free was because of the subs falling it was setup as a PR damage control but would not taken place if not for the financial side struggling and loss of investors.

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Holden_Dissent
04.16.2012 , 03:50 PM | #193
Quote: Originally Posted by Morpheous View Post
Why do we always have to have a discussion about how SWTOR can be saved because some Hack Journalist writes about rumors? I could care less what the hack gaming media has to say about anything. Why? Because they are all idiots.
Not only that, but they are implying that it's dying and in need of saving.

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Holden_Dissent
04.16.2012 , 03:53 PM | #194
Quote: Originally Posted by unseenmaji View Post
Those whom have insider information know that some investors have actually pulled out, so EA is considering downsizing the team and working on their next project than throwing more money and getting more loss. There is a major problem in subscriptions, when the subs which people have now run out the ones which arnt active cause dont find game worth logging in it going to drop by a huge number and EA is aware of that, with coming games coming out it also going to drop, estimations behind close doors is less than 400k subs by mid year, there is some last ditch efforts taking place like throwing in a exploding char patch to appeal to the lesser minded people whom can be distracted by such ploys but the deeper thinkers dont fall for it.

They truly when decided to give the 30 days free was because of the subs falling it was setup as a PR damage control but would not taken place if not for the financial side struggling and loss of investors.
Your insight, irrefutable facts, noted sources, and sense of level headedness really shines!

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Marlaine
04.16.2012 , 03:56 PM | #195
Quote: Originally Posted by Blistrich View Post
As someone who enjoys SWTOR and plays it on a daily basis, I have to say that I disagree.

SWTOR is a Warcraft clone.

Run the two games along side one another - same approach to graphics, same scaling, same nameplates, same mini map, same "battlegrounds" and PvP interface, same skill trees, same itemization color codes, same combat, same interactions... in fact, SWTOR goes further in copying Warcraft than any other mmo I have played in the last 5 years. This includes Conan, Aion and others.

This is not a bad thing.

WoW is an EQ clone. EQ is a Meridian 59 clone. Meridian 59 is a Might & Magic clone.

The format is tried, tested and true. It's easy to navigate and easy to understand. And SWTOR builds on this in many positive ways. Just because it is a clone, doesn't mean that it failed to begin becoming exactly what BW want it to be - familiar, but different.
Good post and accurate on so many counts.

SWG has a lot of improving to do, that is for 100% sure. But the base is solid.

Unfortunately, I pretty much despise the wow formula. I can only hope that they implement a lot more sandbox features. However, I feel that all I'll have to look forward to are raids, and I'm just not a raiding fan.

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Morpheous
04.16.2012 , 03:57 PM | #196
Quote: Originally Posted by unseenmaji View Post
Those whom have insider information know that some investors have actually pulled out, so EA is considering downsizing the team and working on their next project than throwing more money and getting more loss. There is a major problem in subscriptions, when the subs which people have now run out the ones which arnt active cause dont find game worth logging in it going to drop by a huge number and EA is aware of that, with coming games coming out it also going to drop, estimations behind close doors is less than 400k subs by mid year, there is some last ditch efforts taking place like throwing in a exploding char patch to appeal to the lesser minded people whom can be distracted by such ploys but the deeper thinkers dont fall for it.

They truly when decided to give the 30 days free was because of the subs falling it was setup as a PR damage control but would not taken place if not for the financial side struggling and loss of investors.
I love how many people on the internet have "Insider information". Seriously they wouldn't be giving a free month away to most subscribers, or having expanded it to even more subscribers if the game was in such serious trouble. Try logic on for size.
"There's nothing to be gained by second-guessing yourself. You can't remake the past. So look ahead… or risk being left behind"

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Cider-X
04.16.2012 , 03:59 PM | #197
Quote: Originally Posted by Jenzali View Post
SWTOR is hardly a WoW clone and has many innovations that WoW is madly trying to copy and implement for their newest expansion.
Hahahaha. No.
NO U

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AttractiveMale
04.16.2012 , 04:07 PM | #198
poor gameplay production quality is killing this game.

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TonyIommi
04.16.2012 , 04:10 PM | #199
Quote: Originally Posted by unseenmaji View Post
Those whom have insider information know that some investors have actually pulled out, so EA is considering downsizing the team and working on their next project than throwing more money and getting more loss. There is a major problem in subscriptions, when the subs which people have now run out the ones which arnt active cause dont find game worth logging in it going to drop by a huge number and EA is aware of that, with coming games coming out it also going to drop, estimations behind close doors is less than 400k subs by mid year, there is some last ditch efforts taking place like throwing in a exploding char patch to appeal to the lesser minded people whom can be distracted by such ploys but the deeper thinkers dont fall for it.

They truly when decided to give the 30 days free was because of the subs falling it was setup as a PR damage control but would not taken place if not for the financial side struggling and loss of investors.
Reading this gave me a headache. Maybe I'm not deep enough of a thinker. It's all speculation of course, just like the article. We can however do some very simple math. 1.7 million subs as of their last reported date. Add up ever unsub or negative/critical comment on the forums and add a margin for people who don't post on the forums. Are you at 1.3 million yet? don't think so. Theirs alot of "weight" behind 1.7 mill subs and it doesn't just disappear over night regardless of what "deeper thinkers" may profess. MMOs lose some subs and gain some subs. Content comes out that looks appealing to people so they resub. Some will stay, some will leave. Some will resub.

As for free subs, Blizzard did much the same during the vanilla period of warcraft. We all know how that worked out. While I usually ignore mindless speculation I had to laugh at "deeper thinkers" who have no evidence for their deep thoughts.

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amantheil
04.16.2012 , 04:12 PM | #200
Yes, and web site that features a link to a picture of the Olsen twins in bed is always a credible source of information.

I tried finding some good information on the New York Times and Wall Street Journal web site, but none of their stories had links to Olsen twin pictures, or links to an article named "Now that's a Gyro!", so I immediately dismissed them. I tried Forbes, but it since it didn't have a link to "5 Celebs who regret plastic surgery", I knew that I was in the wrong hands.