The end of the arguement. Is SWTOR in decline? Can it be saved?

Do Soa again, he's a joke now and mostly bug free.

EA got voted worst company to work for? Ouch.

a lot of people who support SWTOR are keep mentioning how cool recent live event was, and how good patch is. Ironically, my story is absolutely different. i didnt even see the plague, because i cant feel myself motivated to explore it.

look. we had a great friendly guild on a medium populated server. all was cool, for at least 2 months. then people start leaving - its no problem, really. but then our server basically became a ghost town. 30 people in prime time on the fleet - you know what i mean. so i unsubbed about a month and a half ago, me and my wife were last out of 20 members (mostly rl friends) who did that. i decided to give it another try with 1.2 comes out. it did. no ranked warzones, no proper pvp balance, no ilum, nothing new out of one WZ which i didnt find that much of innovating.

3 months ago, when a lot of people were naysaying on forums, i was the supporter. and i repeatedly told that we will see in 2 months where this is all going. now i can say that it is going down, sadly, and unfortunately. and the reason is simple - Big Money. they kill creativity, kill the soul of the game. instead of making a good game people in charge are forced to use "already known working mechanics" - the game now copies WoW pvp ranking model. impressive. it copies WoW in too many aspects, but it STILL doesnt have a DPS meter or a functional combat log - so people who enjoy PVE competition within a group cant find anything appealing in raiding.

Sad, this is really sad. a great project that is destined to be a niche mmo, like many others on the market.

Can you please send me links to where the press says that it's a bad game? Cause I haven't seen any of these.

And no, the plague was an AMAZING idea. Some of my friends even resubscribed, everyone on my server was vastly impressed and even the forum has nice things to say about the Event.

everyone YOU have talked to. And how many is that? 10 - 20? And The Secret World will be another failure, it's funcom after all. Thought people have learned after AoC? It was terrible!
Guild Wars 2... can't really see anything more than dynamic events which is great. Yes it has good graphics but it's not hard to see that it's WAAAAY to overhyped. It's not revolutionary as some people say. Innovation? Yeah... SWTOR har innovation too you know.
Diablo 3 doesn't count. It's not even an MMO.

SWTOR will blow peoples mind when it has implemented the "must have" features.
Space Combat, Pod racing, Groun Vehicle Combat.. there is so many possibilities.

Seriously all you who still hang on to "theres no problem, no subscription loss blah blah blah" Is it really that hard to just log on and see how bad the servers state actually are? Are you living in completly denial or whats wrong with you fellows? The game IS failing hard and im amazed you cant get that into your heads. The loooooow population on most servers speak for it clearly.


Man some ppl are just damn stupid...

1) There was no intent of having any reasonable discussion in the first place. The sensationalistic title was evidence of that.

2) Couple that with the trash links to articles that vaguely support (or seem to) a previously bolded assertion.

3) Added to a pretend concern and a seemingly friendly "I'm not trolling I'm just concerned blah blah blah, come on guys, what will it take to save this game."

1+2+3=Troll thread. Flag it and move on.

Agreed, did you flag it yet?


Except that since 1.2, my server as well as many others are seeing an increase in populations and play times.

The pops on most servers aren't low, the vast majority are standard-heavy and this was pre-1.2

Has there been a decline since release? Almost certainly. Is making up junk and calling people stupid an intelligent way to discuss it? Probably not...

And your post makes you smarter than us, or not

Ummmm I had a queue this morning, you might want to find a populated server.....

That i dont have an opinion about. However some things speaks for itself...

Your argument is that the game is dying because there are too many servers for the player base ... and then you call others stupid. Hmm. Okay. Lets go with that.