The end of the arguement. Is SWTOR in decline? Can it be saved?

I call BS, I wont say who it is that I know very well that is in GW2 beta for NDA reasons, but I can tell you first hand this is simply not true. The forums are very supportive, people are already calling it the true successor to WoW, having done what no other MMO since could.

Ummm when was Battlefront 3 ever brought back from the dead...?

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And OP...full of BS there haha.

I wouldnt say its dying.
Is it losing subs ... I would think so and rapidly (unless everyone is rerolling servers). My server went from Insta Q's an 5-10 min max during off hours (latenight, early morn) to 10-15 min Q's prime time and almost non existant in off hours. This has happened recently and is ALOT more noticable since 1.2. Normally the weekends are a busy time , this weekend seemed like I was playing a single player game and not by means of content, there was just no one around. If you don't like gauging via Q times, then we went from 70ish republic fleet prime time to 30ish republic fleet prime time.

I can't speak for all servers but yes I would definately say its in a decline. Then again maybe everyone moved to fat man as a last ditch effort to enjoy the game but somehow I doubt that.

So in conclusion,
Dying ? no
Becoming to painfully boring to play ? Yes

Yes....everybody knows a developer or a beta tester; I remember when I was beta testing SWTOR People said the exact same thing when I told them that TOR wasn't a raid centric MMO and you could get gear so close to BIS just by leveling and doing heroic flash-points that it didn't matter.

At the end of may they will open up the beta..we will see who is right then. /shrug.

Where in that post do I predict a downfall?

When anybody says dont believe anything unless xx (Big corperation) says it, Is a lemming
Anywhere and anyhow.

I personally dont predict this game will die. But it will have a low pop, As can already been seen On alot of servers.

SWTOR publicity has been really positive the last two days.. everyone is still reeling from the excitement about the Rakghoul event. People will always be claiming the game is completely crap and failing, etc. They've been doing that on the WoW forums for years and it's still doing well.

I think it's a positive thing that people are so passionate for the game (either for or against it). What's worse is when people simply stop caring/lose interest and the forums die out to little activity. THATS what failed MMOs are like.

"Well, I don't, I don't really think that the end can be
assessed...uh as of itself as being the end because what
does the end feel like, it's like saying when you try to
extrapolate the end of the universe you say the...if the
universe is indeed infinite then how what does that mean?
How far is is t...is all the way and then if it stops what's
stoppin' it and what's behind what's stoppin' it, so what's
the end, you know, is my...question to you...."

- David St. Hubbins

And isn't it so damn coincidental that these hit piece articles pop up about the impending doom huh?

Astroturfing....is there anything you can't do?

Its not the fact that its dying, all MMOs undergo periods of growth and decline, but this is more of a reason WHY its dying.

All the same bugs remains while new bugs are being constantly introduced.

PVE:

This last weekend we run SOA NM, and the entire floor still doesnt drop. Our main tank gets thrown into a pillar, and the boss instantly despawns. One of our healers is flying in phase 2, and she falls through the world on the transition. We still run into invisible lightning balls, we still pretty much base the encounter on RANDOM LUCK that it wont bug out and wipe us or despawn.

4+ months now and we still have to pray for LUCK to beat an encounter? Come on... fix your broken encounter...

PVP:

DPS casters got nerfed, healers got nerfed, melee DPS are ungodly powerful.

Marauders and Juggernauts walk the earth like unstoppable killing machines (really? 8k hit on 1000 expertise defense 20% damage reduction + armor 20% damage reduction?) Not all PVP WZ wins count towards daily quests. Not all PVP WZ played count towards daily quest.

More bugs get introduced while existing bugs continue to go unaddressed.

After awhile people who have been playing MMOs for awhile look at this as a broken game and move on. MMO players have been at this for what? 14 years now since Asheron's call? Star Wars Galaxies veterans remember the entire game changing completely every 18 months. We dont want that experience again. Logging in and finding my talent trees changed and skill points reset just set the table for a BAD precedent in MMO end user experience.

Im a player, not a customer. I can easily find someone else to give my $15 a month to that will more suit my needs.

Maybe, just maybe, Bioware can address this before they throw out the baby with the bathwater

I didnt say you, I was just letting you know who the lemmings were, they keep following no mater how many times they have been wrong.

So far.... 100% of the time wrong