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Firebrand and Stormcaller Question


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llurg
04.16.2012 , 05:34 PM | #11
We're having this issues as well.

We are NOT tank swapping. Our tanks stay and hold aggro on their tanks, dps'ers eat the DD (which becomes SD) and the other tank just pops a cd during incinerate armor.

Once the shield generator phase begins, firebrand's tank runs under the shield with the rest of his group, and stormcaller's tank runs around in front of stormcaller, to attract the lightning spires of course, while the rest of his group runs under the shield generator. He'll keep taunting stormcaller to be safe while we pulverize the adds and the healer heals him from the safety of the shield generator if needed. All of a sudden, BAM, we'll get a lightning spire inside of our shield generator even though the tank is hanging out in front of the tank away from all of us.

Are we doing something wrong? Is this for sure a bug and we just need to get lucky?

Thanks.
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Smaltie
04.16.2012 , 07:06 PM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by llurg View Post
All of a sudden, BAM, we'll get a lightning spire inside of our shield generator even though the tank is hanging out in front of the tank away from all of us.

Are we doing something wrong? Is this for sure a bug and we just need to get lucky?

Thanks.
We had this happen randomly the first 1-2 times. We found that as soon as the annoying voice speaks move everyone to the shield area straight away, don't wait for any other prompting and make sure the that SC tank is running around on the ground not the tank itself, while he will drop spires on himself we found he'd glitch and throw one under our shield in that case.
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llurg
04.16.2012 , 07:42 PM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by Smaltie View Post
We had this happen randomly the first 1-2 times. We found that as soon as the annoying voice speaks move everyone to the shield area straight away, don't wait for any other prompting and make sure the that SC tank is running around on the ground not the tank itself, while he will drop spires on himself we found he'd glitch and throw one under our shield in that case.
Awesome, we'll try this. Thanks so much for the tip. I'll follow up and report any findings.
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pure_laced
04.16.2012 , 10:52 PM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by llurg View Post
We're having this issues as well.

We are NOT tank swapping. Our tanks stay and hold aggro on their tanks, dps'ers eat the DD (which becomes SD) and the other tank just pops a cd during incinerate armor.

Once the shield generator phase begins, firebrand's tank runs under the shield with the rest of his group, and stormcaller's tank runs around in front of stormcaller, to attract the lightning spires of course, while the rest of his group runs under the shield generator. He'll keep taunting stormcaller to be safe while we pulverize the adds and the healer heals him from the safety of the shield generator if needed. All of a sudden, BAM, we'll get a lightning spire inside of our shield generator even though the tank is hanging out in front of the tank away from all of us.

Are we doing something wrong? Is this for sure a bug and we just need to get lucky?

Thanks.
You aren't doing it correctly. You clearly aren't doing 16 man content if you have a tank eat Incinerate armor with a cooldown because in 16 man, the Missile hits for 26k+.

Once the phase "ends" if your players are not moving out of the shields quick enough, stormcaller randomly selects a person like at the beginning and drops a shield on them.
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llurg
04.18.2012 , 01:38 AM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by pure_laced View Post
You aren't doing it correctly. You clearly aren't doing 16 man content if you have a tank eat Incinerate armor with a cooldown because in 16 man, the Missile hits for 26k+.

Once the phase "ends" if your players are not moving out of the shields quick enough, stormcaller randomly selects a person like at the beginning and drops a shield on them.
If we needed to tank swap, we'd do it. We have 0 issues with the tank taking the hits. If it's so clear to you that we're not doing 16man, then why even comment on 16man strategy when it's so apparent that we're doing 8man? Besides, the topic is the electric disturbance, not tank swapping. Get your false elitism out of here.

The electric disturbance is happening in the middle of the phase and not at the end of the phase which makes even less sense. We make it under the shield generator just fine, start killing the adds, and then we get hit even though the tank is dropping electric disturbances beautifully in front of Stormcaller.
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Wallsie
04.18.2012 , 04:27 AM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by llurg View Post
If we needed to tank swap, we'd do it. We have 0 issues with the tank taking the hits. If it's so clear to you that we're not doing 16man, then why even comment on 16man strategy when it's so apparent that we're doing 8man? Besides, the topic is the electric disturbance, not tank swapping. Get your false elitism out of here.

The electric disturbance is happening in the middle of the phase and not at the end of the phase which makes even less sense. We make it under the shield generator just fine, start killing the adds, and then we get hit even though the tank is dropping electric disturbances beautifully in front of Stormcaller.
It may have been unnecessary to point out the 8/16 discrepancy, but it's a pretty sure bet that you're not going to be able to eat Incinerate when NiM is released so you may as well prepare your strategy in advance. By eating a debuff you're not meant to eat your players are building bad habits.

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alifaraaz
04.18.2012 , 05:31 AM | #17
I cannot confirm this to be true - but someone said there's a max number of people you can put under each shield? So maybe you have too many people stacked under 1 shield and not the other.

We only had a spire spawn on us while in shield once, and that was when there was like 6 of us under one shield (on 16man Story). However that could have been down to something else - I have no idea what was going on with the rest of the raid.

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Alexbeav
04.18.2012 , 06:17 AM | #18
Just my 2 cents on this, but our tank also didn't have any problems with incinerate armor on 16-man Story. We'll adapt to tank swapping this week when we attempt HM.
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Excid
04.18.2012 , 06:27 AM | #19
Doing it on sm and hm... we never ran into this once. Only time it has ever happened is when the tank died. More than likely, someone pulled threat going into that phase and they were nuked instead.

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Ocili
04.18.2012 , 08:20 AM | #20
We had this same issue last night a couple of times 8m SM. Don't think it was a mechanic we were missing, as the tank was already dropping spires, and would resume after 1-2 got dropped in shield without having to taunt.
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