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Bane vs. Vader


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Maciasdrasty
04.14.2012 , 02:15 PM | #1
I kinda like all those vs. threads, so there is another one. IMO Bane is a lot better character storywise, and he had much greater role in SW universe. I loved books about him.

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BrandonSM
04.14.2012 , 02:23 PM | #2
Hmm. Two of my favorites going at it.

I'd give it to Vader, simply because if you follow the RoT every new generation of the Sith Lineage gets stronger than the previous one.
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04.14.2012 , 02:25 PM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by BrandonSM View Post
Hmm. Two of my favorites going at it.

I'd give it to Vader, simply because if you follow the RoT every new generation of the Sith Lineage gets stronger than the previous one.
This. The whole premise behind the RoT means that Bane is actually the weakest member of the Banite faction.
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04.14.2012 , 07:28 PM | #4
I would concur with the thoughts here. Bane certainly was not as gifted with a saber. Anikan certainly had enough anger and rage, to equal or better Bane in any contest.

Vader gets the nod here.

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04.18.2012 , 05:48 AM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by Thelna View Post
I would concur with the thoughts here. Bane certainly was not as gifted with a saber. Anikan certainly had enough anger and rage, to equal or better Bane in any contest.

Vader gets the nod here.
Not as gifted ? Bane could move so fast, raindrops couldn't hit him in a rainstorm. Couple that with his sheer physical strenght, and he'd be MORE than a match for Vader. Especially with his obelisk armor. Also he was much wiser than Vader was.

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04.18.2012 , 05:51 AM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by Castiel View Post
Not as gifted ? Bane could move so fast, raindrops couldn't hit him in a rainstorm. Couple that with his sheer physical strenght, and he'd be MORE than a match for Vader. Especially with his obelisk armor. Also he was much wiser than Vader was.
If Bane could defeat Vader, the Rule of Two meant absolutely nothing, the whole premise was that every successive Sith Lord would be more powerful than the last, Bane couldn't defeat Zannah, Vader scared Sidious.

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04.18.2012 , 06:20 AM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by Castiel View Post
Not as gifted ? Bane could move so fast, raindrops couldn't hit him in a rainstorm. Couple that with his sheer physical strenght, and he'd be MORE than a match for Vader. Especially with his obelisk armor. Also he was much wiser than Vader was.
Smarter? Possibly. I mean, he was smart enough to come up with the Ro2 which in the end was the cause of the fall of the Republic and Jedi.


Vader beats him in saber combat. Bane used Djem So. Vader was the greatest master of Djem So and mixed his skills with Djem So and Makashi and had his own unofficial form.
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ReiKai
04.18.2012 , 08:30 AM | #8
Problem is, the Rule of Two was designed to make the Sith Stronger. That does not mean that it was successful. It's just one of many philosophies. Plus there's the fact Sid broke the rules. He didn't challenge Plageuis for control, he killed the man in his sleep. Then Sid took on apprentices that wouldn't surpass him, because he believed he was the epitome of the Rule of Two (also he's a coward and afraid to die). So everyone he took on were just to be used as puppets until the Jedi could be destroyed.

Plus the fact Sid, after becoming Emperor, reformed the Imperial Guard, which were all Force Users, to serve as his personal protection. Add in Vader and all of Vader's secret apprentices, and the whole Rule of Two was thrown out the window.

Moving on. If this is Darth Bane (not to be confused with Cad Bane) when he had the Orbalisk Armor, then Vader loses. Because Vader can't hurt him. If it's Bane after he loses the Orbalisk's, then I'd still say Bane wins because he learned more and sharpened his skills to compensate for the loss of his near invulnerability. He learned more Force Abilities, including Essence Transfer.
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04.18.2012 , 08:39 AM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by Castiel View Post
Not as gifted ? Bane could move so fast, raindrops couldn't hit him in a rainstorm. Couple that with his sheer physical strenght, and he'd be MORE than a match for Vader. Especially with his obelisk armor. Also he was much wiser than Vader was.
Entire point of RoT is to make the coming sith stronger...
When sidious took control it kind of ended.

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04.18.2012 , 12:00 PM | #10
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Vader scared Sidious.
Vader didn't scare Sidious. Sidious didn't trust Vader.
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