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A Healer's 1.2 Grievances: The story of why healers are upset

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A Healer's 1.2 Grievances: The story of why healers are upset

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Khoraji
04.19.2012 , 02:31 PM | #811
Quote: Originally Posted by nakoda View Post
Pre 1.2 my corruption sorc was a force to be reckoned with.

I am playing a video game that puts me in the shoes of a Sith...so that made sense.

As Jason Lee might say, "I'm a f%#!ng Sith!"

I am not disagreeing with the nerfs, we *were* OP.

I no longer feel like a force to be reckoned with, however.

Everyone playing this game should feel like a force to be reckoned with.
A quote comes to mind... "If everyone is special, then no one is"
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nakoda
04.19.2012 , 02:32 PM | #812
Quote: Originally Posted by Darth-Malkaevian View Post
"Healing" defines an action towards another by definition, NOT towards the self. (Even though you can "Heal" yourself) this is not what the verb name refers to. A healer is an individual who heals others by definition.
can you plx espalin fur the sloe how DPS is not "an action towards another by definition"?
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nakoda
04.19.2012 , 02:33 PM | #813
Quote: Originally Posted by Khoraji View Post
A quote comes to mind... "If everyone is special, then no one is"
That is the point. Why else would the classes be mirrored across factions?
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RJChief
04.19.2012 , 02:36 PM | #814
Quote: Originally Posted by Darth-Malkaevian View Post
1. A DPS class is what you would refer to as a "solo" class, meaning it can and will do its job without support.

2. A healer is a "Team" Class, meaning without a team a "healer" is not a "healer" because they have no one to heal.

This is why a DPS should be able to kill a healer solo and very very easily. And why a healer should NOT under any circumstance be able to do a damn thing about it without a "team" to support them.

I just LOL'ed... need fresh pants.

I understand the frustration of dps'ers pre 1.2, but, come on... If were going to be realistic, lets be realistic. I could bring up the name MMO and argue that there is no such thing as a solo class, but I wont. I understand the point you are trying to make.

Where is the motivation? Saying 1 healer shouldn't be able to handle (by that I mean survive) 1 dps'er is like saying a tank shouldn't be able to handle a raid boss.

Healers and DPS'ers can work the same (solo vs team by your words) when taken in greater context. Why can't a healer widdle you down with a lightsaber (I'm just assuming a force user here... bear with me guys) while keeping himself alive? Is a DPS'er really a solo class against 3 or 4 people, or does he also need that healer?

Basically what your brightly colored words suggest:: Your a healer? *** were you thinking?

Food For Thought.
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Drayoc
04.19.2012 , 03:22 PM | #815
Quote: Originally Posted by JustTray View Post
Someone ask this guy how hard Drizzle hits him and ask him if he preferred me as a healer or dps. I'm sure you've run across me and my brother Forbes and been melted a number of times in the last week.
Yes I know both you and Forbes. I haven't played on my Sage (Drey) very much since the update so I don't think I've run across you since you've spec'd DPS. However I do remember playing against you as a healer and you were formidable, but when I would finally get my team to pay attention and focus fire you, you would go down.

I'm not sure if this was you or not Drizzle, but I remember one match of Alderaan Civil War where I was guarding our left turret and you came over and me and you got in a death match for at least 5 minutes and it basically turned into a wet noodle fight until others came...lol I was on "Drey".

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JustTray
04.19.2012 , 03:30 PM | #816
Quote: Originally Posted by Drayoc View Post
Yes I know bot you and Forbes. I haven't played on my Sage (Drey) very much since the update so I don't think I've run across you since you've spec'd DPS. However I do remember playing against you as a healer and you were formidable, but when I would finally get my team to pay attention and focus fire you, you would go down.

I'm not sure if this was you or not Drizzle, but I remember one match of Alderaan Civil War where I was guarding our left turret and you came over and me and you got in a death match for at least 5 minutes and it basically turned into a wet noodle fight until others came...lol I was on "Drey".
Haha ya I don't think I've run across you this patch yet. Now that HSM doesn't double stack it might not be as ridiculous but the last few days Forbes and I have been crushing pub premades regularly. Real sad that their healers just don't make a difference. Countless Warzones now where healer teams are losing to non healer teams.

Anyway I'll look out for you now Drey, and good luck man!

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Safgril
04.19.2012 , 10:24 PM | #817
Quote: Originally Posted by JustTray View Post
Haha ya I don't think I've run across you this patch yet. Now that HSM doesn't double stack it might not be as ridiculous but the last few days Forbes and I have been crushing pub premades regularly. Real sad that their healers just don't make a difference. Countless Warzones now where healer teams are losing to non healer teams.

Anyway I'll look out for you now Drey, and good luck man!
this is what i have been saying alll along....

people are getting confused on how well they are doing is not because of the class or how good they are but simply the team they are playing...

against a good premade... and good players a healer doesnt stand a chance now

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mikegr
04.19.2012 , 11:06 PM | #818
Quote: Originally Posted by Darth-Malkaevian View Post
**** This being the case a healer should die to a DPS. Because without a Team, a healer is useless and is supposed to be such, they are NOT meant to be able to self heal and tank anything and everything better then any other class by themselves.
I have never seen an mmo classify their healers that way. If they did, I'm sure it would be the end of the game in short order because nobody would ever play a healer. It seems that after 1.2 this is the case, however, I would really like to hear an explanation of the class from BW directly.

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Wesgile
04.19.2012 , 11:10 PM | #819
Quote: Originally Posted by Safgril View Post
this is what i have been saying alll along....

people are getting confused on how well they are doing is not because of the class or how good they are but simply the team they are playing...

against a good premade... and good players a healer doesnt stand a chance now
good players makes sure their teams healer, which doesnt charge headlong and tries to tank all the enemies dps, do.
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Brightmist
04.19.2012 , 11:30 PM | #820
Healing requires skill and teamplay now, try it.