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Update on Ranked Warzones in Game Update 1.2

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Update on Ranked Warzones in Game Update 1.2
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Old 04.12.2012 , 04:18 AM | #2571
I think i speak for alot of 50s in my guild that we was looking forward to ranked warzones.

I think its a shame it isnt being released in 1.2 but i guess id prefer it not to be released then released with loads of bugs. I do however think it a tad unfair that it got announced so late.... Your not telling me that they only found out they had issues with it a few hours before patch....
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Old 04.12.2012 , 04:18 AM | #2572
Hi

I'll just post one thing. Whanted to add my voice to the rest of this. I fell like I have been cheated. They promised so many things and all like get is lies. I recon they should refund us some money.

I'm defenetlay deleting game in a few moments. Never had been so asulted in my life.

Sry for my english :P

Hope the game will die and leave you with title of worst company EVER!

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Old 04.12.2012 , 04:20 AM | #2573
Quote: Originally Posted by Amshaa View Post
But it's insane to think that repeated failures won't stick to EA/Bioware's reputation.
Agreed about their rep.

I'm quite new to Bioware games but with all the fuss about them last year I gave recently Played thru Mass Effect 1, Mass Effect 2, then SWTOR, then Mass Effect 3.

This isnt to hate but I have seen a downward trend in Quality.

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hydrica
Old 04.12.2012 , 04:20 AM | #2574
Quote: Originally Posted by Aliozo View Post
Hi

I'll just post one thing. Whanted to add my voice to the rest of this. I fell like I have been cheated. They promised so many things and all like get is lies. I recon they should refund us some money.

I'm defenetlay deleting game in a few moments. Never had been so asulted in my life.

Sry for my english :P

Hope the game will die and leave you with title of worst company EVER!

thats a over reaction tbh and if thats your honest thoughts then maybe tor is better with less players if the player base left is a decent one
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Old 04.12.2012 , 04:20 AM | #2575
Bioware your quickly becoming the new SOE. Lie about everything and push dates back and say soon soon soon. I hope you address this rage on the front-page with an apology post followed by the resignation and replacement of your team leaders and hire competent people who understand and have worked on MMO's in the past.
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Old 04.12.2012 , 04:20 AM | #2576
Quote: Originally Posted by Amshaa View Post
Remembering the fact that, in their own words, they got the greatest pvp-developping team which assured us a such amazing experiment on Ilum, I just can't get angry about this late-delaying option in patch 1.2, when most of the comments on the PTS threads showed the wreckage of it, through two failed event on 4/4 and 4/6.

Game update 1.2 comes with "under the hood underlying changes".
Ranked Warzones will come with "under the hood underlying pvp community"

Anyway, it's not a bad thing to delay a broken part of the patchnote, it's a sane way to improve the game. But it's insane to think that repeated failures won't stick to EA/Bioware's reputation.
I completely disagree, Instead of pulling out of the patch they should just make a HUGE disclaimer as to HOW and WHY is not working properly and left it in the patch, they are not just delaying ranked warzones they are delaying 8 man queues and our ability to get war hero gear. A disclaimer would be a far more reasonable action and there wouldnt be so many unsubs as there are now.

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Old 04.12.2012 , 04:21 AM | #2577
You look at the history of the game to this point and it is riddled with things released half done. UI, Operations, Flashpoints, Class Balance, Player Crafting, Ilum, Open World PVP, Warfronts, the list goes on and on and on.

I am a member of a PvP guild. We do not care about PVE progression. We had the first 50s on our server during the early access, along with the servers first Battlemasters. The vast majority of our premier players have left the game. They will NEVER return. My guild had over 200 members at launch. Today we have less than 40 active players. Do the math.

This title is in serious trouble. When have any of you seen a MMO 3 months after release offering the game for $20 off? Or offering free trials the way that this one is? I tell you what I perceive, it is that new sales and new subscriptions have tanked. Look forward to bulk emails going on in the near future with welcome back offers giving players that are not longer subscribing a chance to experience the great new content.

I think it was best said that 1.2 is the same as polishing the brass rail on the Titanic after the iceberg hit.

The real issue at hand is that in the industry of MMO's PVP players have ALWAYS been the red headed step child. Publishers and developers offer lip service but fail to deliver. The best example of this failure by BW is their choice in making the new operation and flash point the main focus of testing on PTS by transferring only players and guilds that were focused on PVE. My guild submitted over 20 players, all battlemaster, to be transferred to the PTS. If BW had allocated the man hours to transfer PVP players to the PTS then RWFs would have had a chance to be adequately tested. There is NO excuse.

Let me give you an example, say you go to a restaurant and you order a steak and baked potato. Your server tells you that your dinner will be ready in 30 minutes. After an hour your server brings the baked potato to your table and tells you at that time your steak is not ready because they don't have an oven to broil it. They then tell you that you will get your stake some time in the future, maybe tomorrow maybe next week. Do you as a paying customer eat your potato with a smile and sit there and wait indefinitely for your steak ( and don't forget you have already paid for that steak). Or do you get upset, complain to the management, and never return to that business because they failed to deliver the service that they advertised?

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Kif_Bloodfin
Old 04.12.2012 , 04:21 AM | #2578
BW totally NGEd themselves, all these developers/CS staff better prepare a new resume. I wonder what happened to all those devs in SWG that didn't listen to the playerbase when it said to them /unsub for the NGE? Oh thats right they are all out of work because the game went belly up when all the playerbase left.

Saying your gonna release ranked WZ in 1.3 is not quite a great pr move, why? Well because the difference between 1.1 and 1.2 was about 2 months. 1.3 will be at least 1-2 months if your on the current schedule. Sure this doesn't seem like much in your timelines but this is gonna cost people waiting for that some real $$$. In fact it would be cheaper for many in the playerbase to buy a copy of terra,d3,gw2 and get their fix now.

I suggest BW completely change how they do patching of content, make it easier for players to test level 50 content. Also have 2 patch servers ffs, have a long version patch server and a small version patch server. That way you can test out your next big patch while creating small incremental patches.

You should also probably try to apologize to the playerbase that left and make it right. Otherwise they will never comeback to any of your products. Offer a free month or something, sure it will look like a pile of crap on your books, but so will not ever having that player play any mmo you ever make. Learn from SOE, otherwise you will end up just like them.
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Old 04.12.2012 , 04:21 AM | #2579
Quote: Originally Posted by Dirtnose View Post
Bioware can't win can they? If they release it today it's a buggy mess, you all complain. They pull it back you, all complain they pulled it back. Make up your minds.
They could win by not having a buggy mess in the first place and enabling cross server queueing. They chose not to (and yes I mean chose because they have had lots of opportunity to get it right) by way of askewed priorities.

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Old 04.12.2012 , 04:21 AM | #2580
It's funny they are already talking about game updates for 1.3 in order to keep people subscribing to pay for this crap. If you know it should be in the game it should have been in the game by now.