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When will there be a SERVER MERGE?

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When will there be a SERVER MERGE?

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Satans_Puppet
05.10.2012 , 08:19 AM | #831
Quote: Originally Posted by rakuenCallisto View Post
The problem is we shouldn't NEED to ask.

If BW can't see their game is in serious trouble, they have more problems than transfers.
Problem comes down to community communication, they're just not giving us key points in the places we need them.

I'm sure they know what they need to do but they can't just snap their fingers and make it happen. They need a plan but they need to sort out a timeline and then relay it to us, the consumer, the customer, the whiny little poop bags who just won't cut them a break when they mess up

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YanksfanJP
05.10.2012 , 08:26 AM | #832
1) There won't be server merges. Bank on it. They won't let the perception that the game is dying happen.

2) Lots of players want server merges as long as it the other player who has a character with the same name who has to name change, not them. It's kinda like NIMBY if you think about it.

I hope they do server merges just so I can see the endless whining from people who are forced to name change. That oughta be worth a laugh or two.
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JustTray
05.10.2012 , 08:30 AM | #833
Quote: Originally Posted by YanksfanJP View Post
1) There won't be server merges. Bank on it. They won't let the perception that the game is dying happen.

2) Lots of players want server merges as long as it the other player who has a character with the same name who has to name change, not them. It's kinda like NIMBY if you think about it.

I hope they do server merges just so I can see the endless whining from people who are forced to name change. That oughta be worth a laugh or two.
So when the offer free xfers and no one is left on some servers, how is that different? Seems worse to me as it only makes the problem a larger issue for those left behind.

Person who merges first/logs in first gets to keep their name. Then the name is taken and the next person has to reconcile. I don't see how thats a huge issue.

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SlayerNL
05.10.2012 , 08:48 AM | #834
Simply put, the fact is and remains:

There are loads of servers out there that do not have many players on them at all. Only a few are heavily populated. So those servers with only a few people are practically dead. Due to that, not many people can find other people to do content like either group quests, flashpoints or ops.

Also, when people want certain items and they are not sold by either vendors or on the Galactic Trade Market, they can hardly find people to craft the item they want for them.

So what BioWare needs to do is find a way to fill up servers. Get more populated servers.
Because for the current amount of players, you don't need THAT many servers.
Which means that they can do either 2 things as i said before:

1. They need to give people the option to migrate to a more populated server and then, close the empty servers.
so that would mean "Server Migration"

2. Those players that are either not active or just wish to stay on their current server, combine that server with other low populated servers. Bring them together so you get more populated servers and that would mean "Server Merging"

Because as it is now, if it stays as it is now, they will lose alot of subscribers. 'coz no one wants to pay for something that they don't get. No one wants to pay for something and just wait some time for it for it while their money goes to waste. For example, i have still a bunch of quests sitting in my quest log that i can't complete alone. I've tried to find people to help me completing that quest but since that server (as many others) are practically dead, i won't find many if none at all to help me and i end up just waiting, and waiting and waiting 'till finally someone shows up and tells me "I'll help you" and no offense, i love both the Star Wars movies as well as the game. Not to mention the music but i'm not planning on paying for just waiting while my money is going to waste.
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YanksfanJP
05.10.2012 , 01:57 PM | #835
Quote: Originally Posted by JustTray View Post
So when the offer free xfers and no one is left on some servers, how is that different? Seems worse to me as it only makes the problem a larger issue for those left behind.

Person who merges first/logs in first gets to keep their name. Then the name is taken and the next person has to reconcile. I don't see how thats a huge issue.
Because in the issue of character transfers, you can choose where you go, one, and two, you can pick a server that has a name you want still available. You can even plan ahead and reserve any names you want on your destination server before you transfer. With merges, you're at the mercy of where Bioware sends you and if you happen to get home from work later than your namesake gets home from school, you're unfairly and arbitrarily screwed. That will lead to many angry subscribers and you can bet that will be the last straw for some. People tend to grow attached to their names in MMOs
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Shellyn
05.10.2012 , 02:04 PM | #836
YO YO...

it's stupid that BW didnt start moving MANUALLY ppl from empty servers... they lose customers and we lose in game buddies.... more than half of my friends quit, cause they got bored of logging in and stay on our ventrilo server, doing nothing, since in exiles crystal at least the last 3-4 days there were absolutely NO WARZONES... i am not over reacting, not a single one... we are talking about total 30 ppl online... can you believe that?

how BW as a company, afford to lose sooo many players, players that WANT to play the game...

Community is crying for soo long now, but the only thing they said was ... "early summer transfers"...

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05.10.2012 , 03:09 PM | #837
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Mindsplitter
05.10.2012 , 03:17 PM | #838
Quote: Originally Posted by MagicmanNC View Post
The whiners whined at launch when lots of servers had queues. Bioware responded by raising server caps and adding servers. But, as always, the whining doesn't stop, it just finds a new direction.

Now, whiners whine about NOT having a server queue.

The silent majority on your *ALERT: sarcasm* "ghost server" */sarcasm* doesn't want a server merge, they're too busy NOT sitting around on the fleet twiddling their thumbs and spamming.

I have 3 Republic 50s on a decidedly Imp-heavy server that hovers between Light/Standard, and I have a Sith on The Fatman I've toyed with off and on for 3 months (he's on Voss). I've seen both "sides" of the coin.

Why isn't the Sith 50 after 3 months?
Because I'm not sitting in an "effing" queue, for one thing.
The fleet lags there.
General chat there is an abomination, and I'm not talking about just the fleet.
He's Sith, after all, they're the bad guys.
I'm too busy playing on my "ghost server" Republic characters.

Server merge? NO. Not needed. Quit crying.

Paid server transfers? I don't have a problem with this at all! I'll not begrudge someone from joining the "winning team" if they so desire, plus it generates a little extra revenue for Bioware. However, until they're available, a wise man in another thread offered these two options:
1) Reroll
2) Unsub

I, along with most of the "silent majority", don't give a rat's rectum which option you choose; as long as it means one less whiner whining about one less thing on the forums, we win.
You must be part of the 99%. Crying about people crying... yup, mature you are.

Have fun playing with yourself.

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JeramieCrowe
05.10.2012 , 03:28 PM | #839
Quote: Originally Posted by YanksfanJP View Post
1) There won't be server merges. Bank on it. They won't let the perception that the game is dying happen.
You're right. There won't be. Because merges are a decade-old buggy and convoluted mess. What WILL likely happen, though, are transfers off of low-pops and closing them down to cull the number back, which is industry standard these days.

Quote: Originally Posted by YanksfanJP View Post
2) Lots of players want server merges as long as it the other player who has a character with the same name who has to name change, not them. It's kinda like NIMBY if you think about it.
Probably true. But at least the industry standard is fairly painless and take no longer to do it than logging in normally.

Quote: Originally Posted by YanksfanJP View Post
I hope they do server merges just so I can see the endless whining from people who are forced to name change. That oughta be worth a laugh or two.
I don't. It's messy, convoluted, buggy, and usually results in more unhappy players. No, a transfer/shut-down like Rift did last year is what is likely going to happen. It worked like a charm.
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SeatherQ
05.10.2012 , 04:32 PM | #840
All I know is if these populations issues are not fixed when my current time runs out I am not coming back anytime soon. I don't care if it is by cross-realm que's for pvp and flash points or free server transfers away from low pop realms, but I done logging in to spend more than half of my time not even playing the game.