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Who Swtor was made for.


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Shingara
04.09.2012 , 04:14 PM | #131
Quote: Originally Posted by Lord_Ravenhurst View Post
Hold on a sec, did the money not come from EA and Bioware?
LucasArts gave the licence to the golden IP "Star Wars" (which give a title a huge market value) so I guess LucasArts already got itīs fair share and they also profit from the sales, but i donīt think they took ANY financial risk or gave any investment (Why should they?).
You do realise that you dont just invest money into an mmo, you invest talent, ideas and concepts, you give the green light for this and the black light for that. You provide all the relevent lore and more then likly most if not all of the initial art concepts that were then developed by bioware.

You dont think that lucas arts have an invested interest into making swtor the biggest game ever to have hit the market. That the title of star wars will only bring in more profit and vision onto Lucas Arts and in the end make the name of lucas arts greater or worse dependant on how the game developes and survives within the market.

Lucas arts took a huge knock with SOE and you really think they are going to stand back and do nothing apart from just say here is a license do whatever you like, you dont represent us one bit.
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Kaphik
04.09.2012 , 04:20 PM | #132
Quote: Originally Posted by cipher_nemo View Post
It depends on if you mean "hardcore" as in...
  1. Want a challenging experience, so they do all hard and nightmare mode content.
  2. Want to do everything in game. Absolutely everything.
  3. Have nearly unlimited time and no life so they devote all of their time to the game.
If you're #1 and/or #2, then parts of TOR are targeted at you and it's on-par, if not better than many other MMOs for this.

If you're #3 then you're sadly out of luck, as you would be with just about every single MMO out there. The only exceptions might be sand-box MMOs, or seemingly neverending PvP like in EVE Online. TOR is an amusement park style MMO, just like WoW, in which those who spend their whole lives here are NEVER going to be satisfied as the developer will never be able to make enough content for you in a timely fashion.
I couldn't agree with you any more.

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Rivethed
04.09.2012 , 04:24 PM | #133
Quote: Originally Posted by MidichIorian View Post
The difference between a HC and a casual is that the HC is willing for put in time and effort while the casual is just looking for instant rewards. So devs are coming up with pointless gimmicks to reward these casuals on the expense of longetitvity and keeping the other group satisfied.

Now, the kicker is that the casuals would have bought and played the games anyway because they're rarely researching, it's usually just a matter of reading the name for them. I can't remember seeing any forum, for any game, being filled by "this game is too hard" threads. I have however seen thousands of posts and threads asking devs to go back to the roots of the specific genre. Why can't they realize that if a genre or game is successful it's because they used to do something right? This goes double for games with sequels.
Almost got it- i'll give you a B for effort.

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The difference between a HC and a casual is that the HC is willing for put in time and effort while the casual is just looking for instant rewards.
And what are the "HC" going for? What rewards? The same rewards as the "casuals"?
In a better developed game, the more time you put in the more / better rewards you get. That makes sense yes?

In the perfect MMO, all players would have access to all content; However, how far you get in "end game' content depends on how well you play / what you are willing to do ( research etc).

Still with me? Okay...an example-

Wrath of the Lich King, for World of Warcraft, was IMO, the best that game had to offer. Yes! it was "easy" to get epics but those epics were entry-level raid items. This means that even the Great Unwashed could at least gear up for ENTRY-LEVEL raiding; how you performed beyond that was up to the individual player.

But! Oh my the "HC" went ape-****. How dare these pigglings enter our houses!

And its a vicious cycle.

Blizzard did the right thing with WotLC, and I was hoping for more with Cata but...yeah. So I turned my gaze to SWTOR and...

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Tangenobi
04.09.2012 , 04:29 PM | #134
Quote: Originally Posted by HeavensAgent View Post
Incidentally, though, the hardcore demographic is a target audience. It's simply not feasible for the developers to focus on hardcore-oriented content while still building the groundwork for the game. Once the foundation matures they're likely to broaden their development to focus attention on all applicable audiences, the hardcore included because, lets face it, you guys rock the subscription figures; you bring in a lot of money, and it would be foolish not to try to capture your interest at that point.

I'm expecting the widening of the game's design objectives to begin this summer, possibly as early as 1.3. The dual task at that point will be to create and publish dynamic content for the hardcore crowd that will maintain their attention while simultaneously enticing those that have already left the game to return.

It's not going to be an easy challenge.
Yeah once the groundwork is finished you'll start to see what tgus game really has to offer...I had my most fun playing WoW not during vanilla, but towards the middle of TBC and WOTL. Once this games first major expansion comes out to me will determine the direction this game will go.
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Noviru
04.09.2012 , 04:54 PM | #135
Hey everyone,

We recently had to remove several posts for being off topic. A reminder that threads created in General Discussion should stay focused on Star Wars™: The Old Republic™, and should exclude any real life discussions concerning politics.

Thanks for understanding!

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Anysao
04.09.2012 , 04:57 PM | #136
(I won't lie, but This thread will be canceled. I made a similar thread, it's now in file z)

And good to hear your being honest. It is a bit ironic people get made fun of for being a new MMO player?
Oh here's a tip- if it's too easy, try NOT using a companion. I think companions tip the balance in your favor.


Thanks.
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BCBull
04.09.2012 , 05:02 PM | #137
"you don't spend 300 million on a game for 70k-100k subscriptions."

What world does this dude live in? 70k? gg BioWare.

I rather play a poor performing game than a game with this design philosophy.

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Sathid
04.09.2012 , 05:23 PM | #138
I consider myself a Hardcore gamer or used to that is,if people are searching for hard content then by all means go to EQ2 i still play it and the raids took over a year for top guilds to bring down some of the final bosses just maybe two months ago.

That said im tired of HC raiding,and the types of people that it generally brings with it,i do not like easy mode but i enjoy a middle ground and so far SWTOR has provided that.

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GalacticKegger
04.09.2012 , 05:23 PM | #139
Quote: Originally Posted by BCBull View Post
"you don't spend 300 million on a game for 70k-100k subscriptions."

What world does this dude live in? 70k? gg BioWare.

I rather play a poor performing game than a game with this design philosophy.
Since you quit again in your last thread ... by all means.
Can we please just have our pre-KotFE SWTOR MMORPG back?

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Shingara
04.09.2012 , 05:34 PM | #140
Quote: Originally Posted by BCBull View Post
WoW just wow. I have wondered if they even play the game. With this stucture how could they?
That is one of the dumbest things i have ever heard, you actualy think that EA only make SWTOR ?

I dare you to guess how many games on how many platforms ea produces and looks after and id bet you would still be way off the actual number.
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