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How Fast Do Blaster Bolts Travel At?

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How Fast Do Blaster Bolts Travel At?

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EnsignSorrow
04.08.2012 , 09:42 PM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by DiabloDoom View Post
Not unless you were amazing at batting a baseball

Force users have precognition, but, if travelling at C then the movies should not have shown blasters firing, then Jedi moving lightsaber into place, then deflecting it, Jedi should of moved the saber before the shot fired. So blaster bolts have to be moving at speeds as shown in the movies. I don't even think that GL could comment on this.
This makes perfect sense. If the blaster were traveling at the speed of light, then the force user must have his light saber in place before the blaster is even fired, or move faster than the speed of light which is impossible. It's more likely that if the bolts are traveling at the speed of light then first theory is more likely. Which is possible, even within science. Since it has been proven that the brain actually sends nerve signals faster than the speed of light.

If a piece of matter is static in space, then it is moving at the max speed of time. If that piece of matter begins to move in any direction it must divert some speed from traveling in time to traveling in space.

That being said, I don't think this is the case, since if you notice in the films other events are happening in real time while the said blaster bolts are deflected.

If you notice in the films sometimes the light saber is already in position (most of the time), and other times it is deflected on reaction. So it's almost safe to say that blasters (as written in StarWars) travel at the speed depicted.


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The force guides them before the actual event. Hence force sensitive precognition. If you really want to get into the likeliness of that situation: it depends on the will of the force, and how predictable the shot/attack is of the person behind it. That is why StarWars is science-fiction.

If I may defend Revan, and say that is what made him a gifted force-sensitive is that he was unpredictable within the force, and hence his combatants simply could not read him. This along with him using the imbalances of the dark side made for a fierce duelist.

Still, I could argue that the Exile is out of his league entirely. The light side of the force at it's most natural state is the fabric of the force, indeed.

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04.08.2012 , 09:44 PM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by Ricktur View Post
vibro knives are still standard issue and still used. no matter how technological we become, nothing will replace and good combat/survival knife.

except maybe a lightsaber. . .

but anyway, OP, i honestly dont think George Lucas was thinking about how fast they move when he put lasers in the movie. it just looks more futuristic.

BUT if you really want me to delve into my inner geekdom:

theyd have to have some type of ballistic qualities. when jango did a death from above on obi wan on camino, those blaster bolts actually exploded on the ground around him. ALSO in ANH, when leia and luke were swinging from the gap in the death star, spent shell casings were actually being ejected from the standard issue E-11 rifles.

jut food for thought
Well, there are actual ballistic projectile weapons in Star Wars. Scatterguns, Imperial Repeater rifles, capital ship grade Mass Drivers, etc.

As for blasters, its a particle beam/burst. The power cell excites Tibanna Gas into a high energy plasma which is then compressed and accelerated. In the EU and even in the movies, they are shown not to have much in the way of kinetic force until you get into the anti-material range like E-Webs. The Chiss's 'maser' weapons are depicted as having several times the kinetic force behind them relative to comparable blaster weapons.

If you're talking about ship mounted 'laser' cannons, they're just scaled up blaster cannons. Turbolasers and their heavy and long-range derivatives are simply scaled-up/more powerful versions of regular Turbolasers.

None of those travel at actual light-speed, because none of them are truly lasers.

I'm not even going to touch Ion Cannons. They possibly make the least sense out of the Star Wars weapons.

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Ricktur
04.08.2012 , 10:13 PM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by CauldronBorn View Post
Well, there are actual ballistic projectile weapons in Star Wars. Scatterguns, Imperial Repeater rifles, capital ship grade Mass Drivers, etc.

As for blasters, its a particle beam/burst. The power cell excites Tibanna Gas into a high energy plasma which is then compressed and accelerated. In the EU and even in the movies, they are shown not to have much in the way of kinetic force until you get into the anti-material range like E-Webs. The Chiss's 'maser' weapons are depicted as having several times the kinetic force behind them relative to comparable blaster weapons.

If you're talking about ship mounted 'laser' cannons, they're just scaled up blaster cannons. Turbolasers and their heavy and long-range derivatives are simply scaled-up/more powerful versions of regular Turbolasers.

None of those travel at actual light-speed, because none of them are truly lasers.

I'm not even going to touch Ion Cannons. They possibly make the least sense out of the Star Wars weapons.
ok cool story. so, why was jango's westar-34's exploding? and the spent shell casings on the e-11's?

and dont tell me the shell casings were just hte props, if GL wanted to digitally remove them he wouldve by now, the shell casings are canon.
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04.08.2012 , 10:54 PM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by Ricktur View Post
ok cool story. so, why was jango's westar-34's exploding? and the spent shell casings on the e-11's?

and dont tell me the shell casings were just hte props, if GL wanted to digitally remove them he wouldve by now, the shell casings are canon.
1)For the same reason Obi-Wan managed to somehow avoid being singed by two point-blank explosions during that fight. Theatrics. Otherwise, I'd say its because of the landing pad structural material super-heating and igniting/exploding.

2) Casing, singular. From what I watched, there was exactly 1 casing shown, despite all the firing done by everyone. Why is it still in there? Who knows, probably the same reason there is a Stormtrooper in that same movie banging his head into a door. It is simply a little quirk that's not worth taking out. Movies are full of them.

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04.08.2012 , 10:58 PM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by Ricktur View Post
ok cool story. so, why was jango's westar-34's exploding? and the spent shell casings on the e-11's?

and dont tell me the shell casings were just hte props, if GL wanted to digitally remove them he wouldve by now, the shell casings are canon.
They're not canon, they just aren't high on Lucas' list of "what to change/add for the next release/update" of the originals.

They're not like the cable running along Obi-Wan's arm to his Lightsaber that powered the rotating "blade" in the first film.
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04.09.2012 , 09:40 AM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by CauldronBorn View Post
Otherwise, I'd say its because of the landing pad structural material super-heating and igniting/exploding.
True. . . hmm, never thought of that. .. .

Quote: Originally Posted by CauldronBorn View Post
2) Casing, singular. From what I watched, there was exactly 1 casing shown, despite all the
there were three, once when luke shot and twice when leia was shooting.

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They're not canon, they just aren't high on Lucas' list of "what to change/add for the next release/update" of the originals.
so.. .. . you have access to George Lucas' priority/to-do list? interesting. . . .

no i think you are mistaken.
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04.09.2012 , 10:11 AM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by Ricktur View Post
ok cool story. so, why was jango's westar-34's exploding? and the spent shell casings on the e-11's?

and dont tell me the shell casings were just hte props, if GL wanted to digitally remove them he wouldve by now, the shell casings are canon.
There are slug thrower pistols as used by Jix to punch through personal ray shields. Other weapons use lased rounds. Projectiles propelled by superheated plasma. Disruptors in Star Wars are actually lased projectile weapons. Now, as to Blasters, they use energy cartridges.
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04.09.2012 , 10:26 AM | #18
This site intended to answer some of those questions:

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There is no sure answer in terms of real life science; so far we can only place constraints on the nature of the beam by making careful observations about the filmed behaviour. The shots create light which is emitted sideways, otherwise the bolts would not be seen. The visible bolts appear to travel at various velocities, which usually appear to be slower than the speed of light. However there is an invisible component of the beam which often propagates far ahead of the visible bolt. The invisible forerunner is probably an aspect of the fundamental beam itself, and the luminosity of the bolt is a side-effect. The forerunner beam is known to damage targets before the visible bolts arrive, and this component of the shot may actually propagate at lightspeed.

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04.09.2012 , 10:28 AM | #19
This is an interesting topic, and as far as I know weapons known as Blaster-Rifles, Blaster-Pistols and even some of the heavier equipment like the Blaster-Cannons on the ships utilize some form of pressurized, refined gas that envelops a solid 'bolt'-like projectile in plasma and sends it flying. I suppose it depends on the type of weapon, but I'm pretty sure that most Blaster bolts travel at speeds faster than the eye could see. They may only show them in the movies (and games, apparently) because it'd look more boring if you didn't see the projectile, and lazers are always cool to look at. Back when Star Wars first came out people didn't think on this as much and they did for example name the Turbo-Laser cannon even though it actually shoots plasma-encased bolts, Lightsaber was Lasersword etcetera.

When it comes to combat, I'd like to know how far a blaster bolt travels. If it's indeed as the lore says, would the bolt vaporize after being cooled down after a while or, if in space would it just keep going like a standard object propelled forwards in the vacuum?

For science!
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Wolfninjajedi
04.09.2012 , 10:35 AM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by Xezr View Post
This is an interesting topic, and as far as I know weapons known as Blaster-Rifles, Blaster-Pistols and even some of the heavier equipment like the Blaster-Cannons on the ships utilize some form of pressurized, refined gas that envelops a solid 'bolt'-like projectile in plasma and sends it flying. I suppose it depends on the type of weapon, but I'm pretty sure that most Blaster bolts travel at speeds faster than the eye could see. They may only show them in the movies (and games, apparently) because it'd look more boring if you didn't see the projectile, and lazers are always cool to look at. Back when Star Wars first came out people didn't think on this as much and they did for example name the Turbo-Laser cannon even though it actually shoots plasma-encased bolts, Lightsaber was Lasersword etcetera.

When it comes to combat, I'd like to know how far a blaster bolt travels. If it's indeed as the lore says, would the bolt vaporize after being cooled down after a while or, if in space would it just keep going like a standard object propelled forwards in the vacuum?

For science!
It probably travels until it hits something, at least blaster wise due to the tibanna gas being able to produce 4X the energy output. As for space, it probably just vaporizes after a while if it keeps going.
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