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Server population is dropping...


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keleth
04.10.2012 , 01:38 PM | #271
What i'd like to see is a targeted incentive to switch servers. Our server has (or had as pops drop) an overwhelming amount of sith. How about offering some kind of "bump" (experience, credits, a free move, race change, hell anything) to someone willing to move to a server of the same faction that is low on the other faction. Let's keep the war going. This might encourage some servers the want to beef up but even better balance the servers so the things like those on Ilum would be more entertaining and you'd have more PvP then Huttball.

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EnsignSorrow
04.10.2012 , 02:11 PM | #272
Quote: Originally Posted by GalacticKegger View Post
Griefers will keep the fires burning across mutiple threads because it's what they do. Maybe they've sold themselves on being able to effect a fence rider's purchase decision by shooting out their kneecaps. Who knows. All I care is that the game will be fine, and the in-game community on our server is all I need for proof.
True story.

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Incendergel
04.10.2012 , 02:51 PM | #273
Quote: Originally Posted by GalacticKegger View Post
Griefers will keep the fires burning across mutiple threads because it's what they do. Maybe they've sold themselves on being able to effect a fence rider's purchase decision by shooting out their kneecaps. Who knows. All I care is that the game will be fine, and the in-game community on our server is all I need for proof.
Therein lies the problem with regards to your statement, and others. All you care about is the in-game community on "YOUR" server. And that is all you need for proof.

The sad truth of the matter is you are ignoring the same proof people are providing you based on their in-game community and their server. Isn't that a double standard? I mean honestly if you say the game is fine based on your server yet others are saying that it isn't based on the server they are playing yet you ignore it.

You can't have it both ways.

People are stating facts that the server they play on is a ghost town. Republic fleets having 11 to 33 people during prime time...imagine what the starting or other planets have. You think people are making this crap up?

Deny all you want. It is a issue and people are leaving because of it. Those are the sad facts.

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eisad
04.10.2012 , 02:52 PM | #274
I think there is some truth to the servers dying and BW needs to start seriously considering the possibility of merging servers to keep them populated.

As of now, on my server (Kath Hound US - East Coast), I am routinely one of the only players on the higher level planets (usually about 4-5 players) and it's near impossible to do any of the heroic quest b/c there is no one to group up with.

I still love the game and continue to play it, I just loved it a lot more when it was easy to find at least 3 other people to do flashpoints and/or heroic quests.

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Incendergel
04.10.2012 , 02:59 PM | #275
Dragon Trail: 13:54 4/10/2012
Republic Fleet: 12

The Fatman: 13:56 4/10/2012
Balmorra: 87

The Fatman is the only one listed as Heavy (East Coast PvP server)

There are 19 other servers currently listed at Standard (both East/West PvE/PvP servers)
It doesn't matter time of day I would wager then more or less since both are showing good populations.

The rest of the servers are light.

Ignoring all that, and this is a small sample size, it doesn't negate the fact that many people here continue to login during prime time and report dismal populations in their respected area. If that area is even a newbie / starter planet they then hop to the fleets and report the same low numbers.

They need merging.

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ferroz
04.10.2012 , 02:59 PM | #276
Quote: Originally Posted by Mr_Clark View Post
In major MMO terms, I think under 1.5MM subs is the new dead yes. - that's less than 20 million per year in revenue... factor in all your on-going costs and you pretty quickly you realize there is very little money for things like improvements...

That said, I don't think they even have 1.5million after this month.
How did you get 20 million?

1.5 million * $15/month * 12 month/year = 270 million dollars/year.

even if you are really conservative:
1.5 million * $10/month * 12 month/year = 180 million dollars/year.

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ferroz
04.10.2012 , 03:06 PM | #277
Quote: Originally Posted by Kthx View Post
You still don't explain how 1.7 million would not feel dead but 1.5 million would.
Oh that's easy; in the former case, the game is new and people are logging on a lot. So the average usage is 6 hours /day (which is the number that bioware threw around). In the latter case, people aren't logging on nearly as often.

So the former case wouldn't feel dead and the latter would.

note: I'm not actually making any claims about this, just explaining how it's possible.

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Kthx
04.10.2012 , 03:33 PM | #278
Quote: Originally Posted by Incendergel View Post
Dragon Trail: 13:54 4/10/2012
Republic Fleet: 12

The Fatman: 13:56 4/10/2012
Balmorra: 87

The Fatman is the only one listed as Heavy (East Coast PvP server)

There are 19 other servers currently listed at Standard (both East/West PvE/PvP servers)
It doesn't matter time of day I would wager then more or less since both are showing good populations.

The rest of the servers are light.
Mid-day on a weekday people work, go to class, etc. Peak occurs from roughly 6 pm to midnight.

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Kthx
04.10.2012 , 03:35 PM | #279
Quote: Originally Posted by ferroz View Post
How did you get 20 million?

1.5 million * $15/month * 12 month/year = 270 million dollars/year.

even if you are really conservative:
1.5 million * $10/month * 12 month/year = 180 million dollars/year.
Ha, I missed that he was claiming $20 million per year! That's obviously much too low.

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Frostvein
04.10.2012 , 04:05 PM | #280
Waiting on you kthx.
Meanwhile, in Tera general chat -

"The sad thing is, arguing with fanbois on the forums was more entertaining than their 300 million dollar single player MMO from 2008"