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Jedi have children?


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Jandi
04.05.2012 , 09:02 PM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by Captain_Zone View Post
Corran Horn was allowed to get married and have a family as were ALL the Jedi in the New Jedi Order under Luke Skywalker. He saw no reason to be a "love nazi", for lack of a better word like previous Jedi Councils.

Plo Koon was given special dispensation by the Prequel Council because of his race's low birth rate. He did not care for them as a husband or father, though. He was ordered by the Council not to form any attachments.

During the TOR era, the Council isn't quite as draconian about it as they are in the prequels, but it's still pretty bad. You find out during the Kira romance arc just how stifling they can be.

1. Both Jedi have to be born into the Order, or raised from a very early age by the Order. Even then, there is no guarantee that they would be able to marry. They have to prove to the Council that they have can handle it and not form an attachment. After the wedding night, any further contact between then is regulated by the Council.

2. If a child is born to the couple, he or she is taken immediately from the parents and raised by the Order.

3. If the parents wish to see the child, they must obtain permission from the Council to do so.

4. The Council does routine checks on the couple to make sure they do not form attachments.

5. If the Council deems that any attachments have formed between the Couple, they have a choice. Have the marriage annulled and be banned from seeing each other ever again, or have their connection to the Force severed and be kicked out of the Order.

Like Elf said: "And they say the Sith are the evil ones." Sums it up perfectly, right there.
That is completely and utterly different from the Consular one. I imagine Kira is a special case due to her being... you know.

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Captain_Zone
04.05.2012 , 09:07 PM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by Jandi View Post
That is completely and utterly different from the Consular one. I imagine Kira is a special case due to her being... you know.
I haven't played the Consular one, but that was the 411 Kira was able to dig up during her investigation. Yeah, she was actually disqualified because she was 10 when Master ******* brought her into the Order. Too old to qualify to get married.

EDIT: Seriously???? It bleeps out K i w i i k s??? That's Kira's master's NAME!!! WTH????
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DaForceiswithme
04.05.2012 , 09:21 PM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by vandurlast View Post
During Act 1 of the Consular story it comes up that a certain Padawan is the daughter of a certain Master. No one really seems to comment much on it but isnt it unusual that a Jedi would have a child at all? I know from early Jedi missions that love/romance is forbidden to them so how do you end up with Jedi who have kids?
Is there some kind of Force Sensitive Master Race breeding program??
Last time i checked you dont need emotion to **** someone and have a kid.
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rashencyberspeed
04.05.2012 , 09:33 PM | #14
Some people are using this as a way to defend the Sith and say they aren't evil.
But the Sith aren't exactly accepting of love either.
Many Sith view love and attachment as a weakness.

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Jandi
04.05.2012 , 09:37 PM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by Captain_Zone View Post
I haven't played the Consular one, but that was the 411 Kira was able to dig up during her investigation. Yeah, she was actually disqualified because she was 10 when Master ******* brought her into the Order. Too old to qualify to get married.

EDIT: Seriously???? It bleeps out K i w i i k s??? That's Kira's master's NAME!!! WTH????
No, I mean that what you listed isn't at all how the council handled Consular having a thing with the one companion whose name I can't remember, the soldier. It was more like "Since you are honest and open about the relationship, and you both know what you are getting into, we have no problem with it". It's the Jedi who are afraid of the masters if they knew (first mistake) that try to hide and sneak around (second mistake) that the rules are there for. It's a mind-game really. If you really believe them to be so cruel as to severe one from the force then you've failed as a Jedi already. Jedi are supposed to be wise enough to understand and if they don't, well, they failed as a Jedi and can be shoved into the archives on those grounds to begin with, as they can't handle field duty anyway.

It's like "here is a set of rules that you must not break" if you break them and lie about it to the council, you've failed. If you're honest and open about it, they would most likely help you.

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Captain_Zone
04.05.2012 , 09:45 PM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by Jandi View Post
No, I mean that what you listed isn't at all how the council handled Consular having a thing with the one companion whose name I can't remember, the soldier. It was more like "Since you are honest and open about the relationship, and you both know what you are getting into, we have no problem with it". It's the Jedi who are afraid of the masters if they knew (first mistake) that try to hide and sneak around (second mistake) that the rules are there for. It's a mind-game really. If you really believe them to be so cruel as to severe one from the force then you've failed as a Jedi already. Jedi are supposed to be wise enough to understand and if they don't, well, they failed as a Jedi and can be shoved into the archives on those grounds to begin with, as they can't handle field duty anyway.

It's like "here is a set of rules that you must not break" if you break them and lie about it to the council, you've failed. If you're honest and open about it, they would most likely help you.
Wow, that's almost as cruel.... Yeah, I'm not down with headgames on that scale. That's just sadistic....
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Jandi
04.05.2012 , 09:48 PM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by Captain_Zone View Post
Wow, that's almost as cruel.... Yeah, I'm not down with headgames on that scale. That's just sadistic....
Jedi are always tested in trials by fire, that is no different. It is a trial of the mind and if a Jedi can keep a level head even with love involved. I see no problem with it at all.

I mean, you get thrown into nests of fleshraiders, things that take down Jedi knights, armed with a training saber. That's like throwing you into a bear den with your bare hands.

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ScarletBlaze
04.05.2012 , 09:53 PM | #18
It bascially comes down to the fact if you lie about it what else will you lie to them about. If you are honest with them and your history with the order is such that they have no reasons not to trust you in this matter, than they would most likely not have a problem.

It's the lying and hiding that causes a problem.


Sort of like that padawan you run across in Tython that was trying to lift a rock and ask you to do it and his master comes up and sees it and he tries to lie his way out of it .
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Captain_Zone
04.05.2012 , 09:54 PM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by Jandi View Post
Jedi are always tested in trials by fire, that is no different. It is a trial of the mind and if a Jedi can keep a level head even with love involved. I see no problem with it at all.

I mean, you get thrown into nests of fleshraiders, things that take down Jedi knights, armed with a training saber. That's like throwing you into a bear den with your bare hands.
At least the Sith are upfront about it. Do what you want, but just obey your Lord or Darth until something comes up and you get the chance to kill him/her.

Besides, trolling Jedi Masters isn't near as much fun as trolling Darth Baras or Thana Vesh or even Zash. Zash is downright hilarious and has the wits to match you barb for barb, too. Some of her comebacks are priceless.
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Captain_Zone
04.05.2012 , 09:55 PM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by ScarletBlaze View Post
It bascially comes down to the fact if you lie about it what else will you lie to them about. If you are honest with them and your history with the order is such that they have no reasons not to trust you in this matter, than they would most likely not have a problem.

It's the lying and hiding that causes a problem.
Kira and I aren't hiding it. We're just not telling anyone. Nobody's asked.
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